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CA water use is 50% environment, 40% agriculture, 10% residential. Maybe we should focus on reducing that 50%? It was nice and all when we had plenty of water to waste but it’s time to revisit those policies. https://www.ppic.org/publication/water-use-in-california/
Is this a joke comment? Or is this really what the average American thinks?
Nearly all of the Western USA is in drought and it's not even summer yet
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Re: Nearly all of the Western USA is in drought and it's not even summer yet
#52It's not unprecedented. It's been a steady state that they have pretended was not a steady state. They are not "in a drought". They say drought in a way that implies that it is a temporary state that may return to a different, normal state. But it will not. They have reached a new normal of a lower water level. https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-05-06/editorial-t... was a great editorial on this from last yea…
Re: Nearly all of the Western USA is in drought and it's not even summer yet
#53If I lived anywhere near there I would have been desperately trying to sell my property before it became worthless.
Re: Nearly all of the Western USA is in drought and it's not even summer yet
#54Here's a novel idea: Don't live in the desert. Don't grow baby spinach in the desert. Let water prices rise to the extremes they need to discourage people from doing stupid stuff with essentially free water.
They wont, it will fail and then those who get it and are ahead of the curb will innovate. You already see it with rising fertilizer costs, farmers are looking into more traditional methods not reliant ok chemical companies.
Regulators will surely screw it up, as they have been in cohoots with $insiders.
Re: Nearly all of the Western USA is in drought and it's not even summer yet
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
CA water use is 50% environment, 40% agriculture, 10% residential. Maybe we should focus on reducing that 50%? It was nice and all when we had plenty of water to waste but it’s time to revisit those policies. https://www.ppic.org/publication/water-use-in-california/
Which species and ecosystems are you proposing eliminating? ("environmental use" really means "leave it in the river"; reducing environmental use to zero means making rivers never reach the sea because you've extracted 100% of the water.)
Re: Nearly all of the Western USA is in drought and it's not even summer yet
#56Here's a novel idea: Don't live in the desert. Don't grow baby spinach in the desert. Let water prices rise to the extremes they need to discourage people from doing stupid stuff with essentially free water.
Re: Nearly all of the Western USA is in drought and it's not even summer yet
#57It's not unprecedented. It's been a steady state that they have pretended was not a steady state. They are not "in a drought". They say drought in a way that implies that it is a temporary state that may return to a different, normal state. But it will not. They have reached a new normal of a lower water level. https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-05-06/editorial-t... was a great editorial on this from last yea…
I believe this statement is applicable to the climate crisis in general. Recent reviews of 2015 Paris agreement progress indicate abysmal performance. We've been using resources in such a way that we don't have to consider their true costs, and we've been doing so for generations. I don't think we'll see very significant change until it is forced upon us. We'll then make reactive changes, rather than proactive changes. And it will be too late for a lot of regions / people.
Re: Nearly all of the Western USA is in drought and it's not even summer yet
#58Here's a novel idea: Don't live in the desert. Don't grow baby spinach in the desert. Let water prices rise to the extremes they need to discourage people from doing stupid stuff with essentially free water.
Only ~10% of the use is residential.
> Don't grow baby spinach in the desert.
This would also be fine if the water wasn't divided up using a formula that allocates more water than has historically flowed through the Colorado.
I have no problem with pricing it correctly.
Re: Nearly all of the Western USA is in drought and it's not even summer yet
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
We need the transcontinental pipeline to push water to where it needs to be. Or agriculture needs to move to where the water is.
This makes sense to me. Water is the most abundant substance on Earth. Build aqueducts and move the water around. If the Romans could do it we can handle it too.
Re: Nearly all of the Western USA is in drought and it's not even summer yet
#60It's not unprecedented. It's been a steady state that they have pretended was not a steady state. They are not "in a drought". They say drought in a way that implies that it is a temporary state that may return to a different, normal state. But it will not. They have reached a new normal of a lower water level. https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2021-05-06/editorial-t... was a great editorial on this from last yea…
CA water use is 50% environment, 40% agriculture, 10% residential. Maybe we should focus on reducing that 50%? It was nice and all when we had plenty of water to waste but it’s time to revisit those policies. https://www.ppic.org/publication/water-use-in-california/