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Ultorg: A user interface for relational databases [video]

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Re: Ultorg: A user interface for relational databases [video]

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post #11

What GUI toolkit is this using? Is this native?

Looks like Java Swing to me, or something in that area. This isn't open source, but the author's github has primarily Java projects including an old swingx fork. https://github.com/eirikbakke?tab=repositories

Here's an amusing project: a program that benchmarks the user of a database software, to measure its ease of use.

https://github.com/eirikbakke/SDEBM

Re: Ultorg: A user interface for relational databases [video]

#52
post #50

I like the idea. But I‘m turned off by the fact that there is no pricing information. Just a request access action button. Maybe it’s vapor ware. Maybe they are checking market interest. Maybe they are looking for large pilot customers. I don’t see a product for me. The discussion here is still interesting and I‘m grateful for the mentioned alternatives. As for my pricing limits? Probably something between 10-50 USD…

I filled out the form to get access, and I got it about a day later. It's free, and it didn't ask me about anything else.

As far as I can tell it's above beta quality, so definitely not vaporware.

Re: Ultorg: A user interface for relational databases [video]

#53
post #50

I like the idea. But I‘m turned off by the fact that there is no pricing information. Just a request access action button. Maybe it’s vapor ware. Maybe they are checking market interest. Maybe they are looking for large pilot customers. I don’t see a product for me. The discussion here is still interesting and I‘m grateful for the mentioned alternatives. As for my pricing limits? Probably something between 10-50 USD…

Here's my anecdote: I requested access and got a download link in an email from the founder shortly thereafter. I found out about it from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30871660. You seem like someone that would be ideal for the private beta as a potential paying customer. Might help him out.

Re: Ultorg: A user interface for relational databases [video]

#54
post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Excel plugins are unfit for this as the app enforces a perfect grid

In Google Sheets I can merge cells horizontally or vertically, does Excel not have that?

Excel does, but merging is not a "best practice". It breaks navigation and causes all sorts of annoying UX issues.

Still, it's unmanageable to replicate the grid in TFA (TFV?) by merging/un-merging cells

Re: Ultorg: A user interface for relational databases [video]

#55
post #15

I've been using Hasura and TablePlus a lot lately, and actually wished for something that combines them. Hasura is great at understanding relations and making joins feel effortless and TablePlus is so good at making table editing feel as fast as excel. This looks like it's the thing, with some extra power thrown on top (formulas and nested layouts are nice!). The UI looks drab, but maybe that's ok? It means the funct…

You're not looking for it but datagrip seems to be able to do exactly what table plus does while also being a full fledged SQL IDE (for the same price).

Re: Ultorg: A user interface for relational databases [video]

#56

Someone who builds something like this in form of an Excel plugin will have a real winner. And if you do, and when you make your millions, please send me a check as a show of gratitude :)

Are Excel plugins really a valid market? I know there are some but I wonder what the size of the entire segment is... 95%+ [ of places will never allow installation of anything extra!

Essbase and its Excel plugin is a notable exception.

Re: Ultorg: A user interface for relational databases [video]

#57
post #34

Surprised there isn’t SQLite support. Perhaps it’s in the works. Also surprised this is a native app, would have expected a web application. In any case, compelling demo.

A bunch of the database IO in it is JDBC based, so a web app probably isn’t going to happen.

Database drivers are commoditized on all major language runtimes. I don’t think this is a reason for it not being a web app.

Re: Ultorg: A user interface for relational databases [video]

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post #41
post #2

I’m honestly really blown away by this. Are there other such tools out there that do a similar thing?

https://github.com/dbgate/dbgate is an open source SQL IDE that automatically join data from other tables through a similar interface

From the screenshots, the interface doesn't look similar at all. Thanks for pointing out dbgate though, I am downloading it. ;-)

I really like Ultorg's grasp of how to display 3-dimensional+ data. That form generator shown in the video was really smart too.

Re: Ultorg: A user interface for relational databases [video]

#59
post #15

I've been using Hasura and TablePlus a lot lately, and actually wished for something that combines them. Hasura is great at understanding relations and making joins feel effortless and TablePlus is so good at making table editing feel as fast as excel. This looks like it's the thing, with some extra power thrown on top (formulas and nested layouts are nice!). The UI looks drab, but maybe that's ok? It means the funct…

Check out https://xata.io/ We've taken a lot of inspiration from Airtable and applied it on top of a real database, so it sounds quite similar to the feature set that you are describing. We're in closed beta but I'm happy to give you access if you want to try it.

Re: Ultorg: A user interface for relational databases [video]

#60
post #2

I’m honestly really blown away by this. Are there other such tools out there that do a similar thing?

Sigma is a BI system with a visual manipulation interface for query construction (Workbook) that has similarities with Ultorg.

https://www.sigmacomputing.com/

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