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Four months with Android (An iOS user's exploration)

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Re: Four months with Android (An iOS user's exploration)

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I heavily approached using Android as I did using an iPhone. I received a lot of shit for this, though. I was told I was “using Android wrong.” Well, duh. They're different, of course they're going to behave differently. I learned this the hard way myself, I tried approaching the iOS like it was an andriod and was similarly disappointed and frustrated. Many "why the fuck doesn't this thing X?" were yelled. Then I rea…

It's like complaining that OSX doesn't work like Windows. Different doesn't mean either is wrong, but it does mean you can't use them the same.

Re: Four months with Android (An iOS user's exploration)

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From my view, this quote summed up so much of what's wrong with the article:

"If it’s for those who still want to make some sort of argument predicated on shouting the word “OPEN!”, that’s sad, because Android’s “openness” is a meaningless bullet point to average users and a facade championed by its most devoted."

"Open" is not just a keyword, and it's not something that "average" users should feel so complacent about ignoring. While issues exist with Android's Honeycomb branch and openness, the bottom line remains that Android is far more open than iOS, and that average users benefit. For one thing, that openness makes censorship much more difficult, and so users get access to a wide array of content that is unavailable or difficult to access on iOS. The other side is that Android's openness means that app developers are free to make their apps more useful, such as remapping volume keys to page turn buttons in a reader or allowing users to set phone features based on triggers (Locale, Tasker and to a lesser degree Shush). Even if users are not by and large aware of the effect that openness has on their experience, it does have a very positive effect for them. The recent example of Instapaper being crippled by Apple's design decisions in iOS 5 is a good example of that: had Apple been more open in their approach to iOS's design, then Instapaper would be able to store data somewhere else and thus to deliver a better UX.

I remain unimpressed with articles that simply assert that "openness" doesn't matter to users, without exploring what effects the open-vs-closed dichotomy has on their experiences.

Re: Four months with Android (An iOS user's exploration)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They aren't basing it off of UI as much as form-factor... and that is hardly superficial.

Nor, as was pointed out, is it an Apple invention. You could just as easily claim that Apple and Google ripped off the LG Prada: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Prada_(KE850)

It was pointed out by you, and it was irrelevant. Nobody claimed it was an Apple invention, and if you want to go down this slippery slope let's attribute everything to the first guy who put pixels on a screen. I'm certain everything else in the history of application development and user interfaces derives from that as a plainly obvious application.

Re: Four months with Android (An iOS user's exploration)

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I recently went the other way around. After exchanging my Galaxy Tab 2 times for random hangs and unexplained slowness I thought I will check out the iPad. I still have an Android phone that I am perfectly happy with so throughout the day I go back and forth with iOS and Android. The experience on the iPad is undeniably superior after iOS5. The UI is way smoother than Honeycombs, I haven't found any beta behavior yet…

> 3) Always having to hit the physical home button for app switching is annoying compared to Android There's a four-finger slide for switching apps on the iPad... It may need enabling, though. The four fingers don't have to be spread out - just together is fine.

Thanks, it is a lot better than home button. Did not have to enable anything. 5 finger in-swipe goes to desktop, out-swipe brings up multitasking bar and 4 finger switches apps - albeit without preview so that's still a bit annoying.

Re: Four months with Android (An iOS user's exploration)

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How can you do a comparison of iOS / Android and not even mention Google Maps & Navigation?

I used the original iPhone for 2.5 years, spent nearly 2 with a Nexus One, and now switched back to iPhone 4S. As the reviewer mentioned, Gmail integration is still very poor on the iPhone. Hopefully Sparrow for iOS will fix this.

But iOS Maps is still stuck in 2007. The Android maps app has improved tremendously even just over the past year. Features that make it far better than the iOS maps app:

1) Excellent turn-by-turn, voice-guided navigation

2) Vector-based maps. You'd be surprised how much this improves the experience. Maps load and render much faster due to the smaller binary sizes of vector maps.

3) Ability to cache the maps for multiple 10x10 mile areas. This is a feature that is possible because of (2). When I visit a foreign city, I can cache a 10x10 square around my current location. From that point forward I can view detailed maps for that area without any connection.

4) See detailed information for locations. I can tap on a place in maps, see reviews and ratings for it, get a link to its website

5) Street view.

6) 3D maps with building shapes. While this may not seem useful, I've found it helpful on several occasions since it helps me orient based on the shapes/sizes of surrounding buildings.

Most importantly, the Google Maps app on Android has a major release about once a month and each one generally improves the quality.

Re: Four months with Android (An iOS user's exploration)

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I went Android because there's no need to jailbreak the phone to install third-party, and I'm a programmer. I don't have to pay $99/yr to program for it, or own a computer that runs one particular operating system. I'll admit that for a long time, the iPhone experience was way better than Android. And the browser and media functionality are still horrible. And the games... -sigh- But in general, I love the Android ex…

See, I far prefer the browser on Android because of one thing - the single most important thing in a phone browser, IMO - text reflow on zoom.

That surprises me. I find the Android browser to be completely unusable, primarily due to performance but secondarily due to that annoying text reflow.

Re: Four months with Android (An iOS user's exploration)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

i do SSH from my ipad all the time without much pain. I have an android phone and hate the ssh apps mainly because the text is tiny. What ssh app do you use on android?

i use connectbot.

that's what i'm using, but I much prefer the IOS apps. connectbot won't go into landscape and the keyboard covers up the screen so i have to type while the prompt is covered up by the keyboard.

Re: Four months with Android (An iOS user's exploration)

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I recently went the other way around. After exchanging my Galaxy Tab 2 times for random hangs and unexplained slowness I thought I will check out the iPad. I still have an Android phone that I am perfectly happy with so throughout the day I go back and forth with iOS and Android. The experience on the iPad is undeniably superior after iOS5. The UI is way smoother than Honeycombs, I haven't found any beta behavior yet…

2) this is configurable, i.e. you can choose what apps should use modal alert, banners on top or nothing. 3) you can try 'four-fingers' gestures as a replacement. They are useless on an iPhone, bu on iPad they make Home button obsolete.

#2 - Yep, for some reason calendar was set to Alert. Thanks.

Re: Four months with Android (An iOS user's exploration)

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I develop apps for both iPhone and Android. I stopped carrying my iPhone for personal use, and use my Droid Bionic full time. Here are the 3 reasons why. 1. Google Maps, and navigation. If you're actually driving places, google maps is an amazing godsend. If you're taking mass transit, it blows the doors off what's on the iPhone. Ever get on a bus with your iphone, and have it vibrate in your pants when the next bus…

That's why I'm getting the N9. Better 'feel' and UX than iOS, more open than Android. Best navigation and integrated messaging with GTalk, Skype etc. Real-time event view to everything wins widgets hands-down. No need to jump loops to do simple things, no need to open apps to check updates etc. Personally I can live with fewer apps if everyday tasks are handled so well.

Re: Four months with Android (An iOS user's exploration)

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Hm. Seems the author at least attempted even-handedness, but largely failed.

In a recent discussion on HN, I asked saurik, the developer of Cydia, why he's stuck with iOS over Android and he gave me this epically amazing answer: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3115732

My house is a divided one. My wife is all Apple, while I'm a Windows/Android user. I did use an iPod Touch extensively before I got a smartphone, and agonized over the iPhone/Android decision, but eventually went with Android. Four handsets later, I haven't looked back. Here are some of the reasons why:

* I'm a Google fanboy. It was tough when Apple and Google started to fight. It was like mom and dad were getting a divorce.

* Relatedly, I'm heavily invested in Google services. Gmail, GTalk, GCal, GReader, G+, GMaps/Nav all work better on Android. Period. And I use them all heavily.

* Widgets are not just radio toggles. I use a live interactive calendar/agenda widget as well as a live todo list. It's great.

* Configurability. I can change my launcher. I can change app icons. I can put them wherever I want. It used to drive me nuts that I couldn't arbitrarily place icons on my iPod, or get rid of the Stocks app. And that it was always sunny and 73 degrees. I can install different keyboards. Swype!

* In fact, this deserves its own bullet: Swype!

* Apps have deeper integration with the OS. The intents architecture is what enables the share menu that TFA mentions. It also lets apps link to each other in cool ways, like Tweetdeck can send me to the browser, and I can use the hardware back button to go straight back to Tweetdeck instead of via the home screen.

* Apps are often ugly but enable amazing functionality. Titanium backup lets me backup all my apps and system data and sync it to dropbox. Locale lets me set up contingencies. So when I leave the house, it turns off wifi and ringer, and turns them back on when I get home automatically. It turns sounds on when I put in headphones and adjusts volumes of everything. It sets my GTalk status to "Work" when I'm at work. Tasker is uglier but provides even more functionality. It's pretty amazing.

* Openness matters. At least to me. I like that I can install apps without Google's permission. I like that Google doesn't pre-approve apps. I don't like that as actively censorial a company as Apple has that much power. I've said it before: I like Disneyland, and enjoy visiting, but I wouldn't want to live there. Say what you want, but Android is a lot more open than iOS. To dismiss its openness because it's not completely and absolutely open is silly, especially when you express preference for an unequivocally more closed platform.

I agree that iOS is more polished. I wish Android were more polished. It's true that the UI isn't as responsive as I'd like. And I agree that iOS is better for most people. I regularly advise people to get iPhones. I've even told several people who own and like Android devices (in two cases even people who chose Android because they don't like Apple) that I think they'd be happer with iPhones.

But to spend four months and end up "mostly answerless" as to why someone would want an Android device is either willfully ignorant or pandering.

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