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Re: Swedish PM says integration of immigrants has failed, fueled gang crime

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You re not just biased, you re angry. Realize that you 're not the first angry religious person. Europe fought religious wars centuries ago and it was devastating. It fought nationalist wars in the past century and was almost leveled to the ground. It's way beyond the point where it s going to be accepting of theocracies and religious fundamentalism and even nationalism. Individual rights and enlightenement values is what people believe in. LGBT rights are used as a shit test for those values, and they are important despite the fact that LGBT are a small minority. If you can live with your religious beliefs but still tolerate them , then congratulations you have become an individual of the modern world. It's not that hard, all it takes is some control of emotions.

Maybe also read up some history of the ottoman empire and the countries that sprung out from it. Some have managed to escape becoming part of the middle east problems, some are regressing like turkey, some never made it to statehood. The world is more complex than simplistic religious stories. People don't hate you ; they have their own convictions shaped by their own history and their own anxieties.

Re: Swedish PM says integration of immigrants has failed, fueled gang crime

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> I don't think people care when you start disrespecting their religion. That depends on the people, or is it the religion? > I would love to hear any scientific / fruitful / reasonable discussions about why my religion is invalid if you got any Not relevant to my point.

> That depends on the people, or is it the religion? Not sure what you mean, can you elaborate?

In some instances, "disrespecting a religion" results in considerable uproar and even violence.

Said uproar/violence is committed by people but I'm asking if the cause is the people or the religion.

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