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Re: Apple Reports Second Quarter Results

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Post by ghaff »

markstos wrote: post #46
threeseed wrote: post #32

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MacBook Pro is not designed for everyone. Content creators rely on SD cards everyday and cameras actively sold today use it. Devices stopped being shipped with USB-A a long time ago now.

Photographers use SD Cards. Most Everyone uses keyboard, mice and plenty still have USB thumb drives.

The strongest argument for a built-in SD card slot is it can give you something like 1TB of cheap additional storage as well as serving as a backup when traveling. Probably not a super-common use case though.

(Yes, photographers use SD cards although they often connect cameras directly and USB SD readers are cheap.)

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Post by gordon_freeman »

lvl102 wrote: post #6

I am simply amazed by how much money this company makes. Nice boost to Mac business with the new Macbook Pros selling like hotcakes and OOS constantly.

I agree they are selling MBPs like hotcakes. M1 Max MBPs are no where to find and have been in backlog for months now.

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Post by tentacleuno »

threeseed wrote: post #32
dontlaugh wrote: post #23

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Exactly. USB A would be far more useful than the SD card slot for almost everyone.

MacBook Pro is not designed for everyone. Content creators rely on SD cards everyday and cameras actively sold today use it. Devices stopped being shipped with USB-A a long time ago now.

> Devices stopped being shipped with USB-A a long time ago now.

Are you talking about Macs or devices in general? My 2021 laptop has an SD card slot, x2 USB A and x2 USB C (well, Thunderbolt 4). Despite how much I like USB C (all the devices I take with me have it), USB A is still here and will be for quite a while.

Oh, I forgot to mention that my laptop also has (full-sized!) HDMI and a headphone jack.

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Post by smoldesu »

threeseed wrote: post #32
dontlaugh wrote: post #23

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Exactly. USB A would be far more useful than the SD card slot for almost everyone.

MacBook Pro is not designed for everyone. Content creators rely on SD cards everyday and cameras actively sold today use it. Devices stopped being shipped with USB-A a long time ago now.

I have a hard time believing that people use SD cards more frequently than they do USB-A. Sure, photographers probably get good use out of it, but developers, students, content creators who aren't shooting with DSLR, animators, musicians, 3D artists, regular artists and video editors will probably never touch it.

There are plenty of fairly common USB-A peripherals still in use anyways. A lot of audio interfaces, mice, keyboards and webcams rely on low-bandwidth but ubiquitous ports like USB-A. Apple and their pride would never put one on a modern Mac, but we're really at an impasse: neither side will adopt either standard, so it's more likely that we'll simply see wireless peripherals gain popularity instead. Not exactly bad, but kinda an asinine take for a company that just released a professional desktop computer with USB-A, but refused to add it to their laptops.

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Post by dekhn »

mattl wrote: post #35
threeseed wrote: post #26

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Just buy a USB-C to USB-A adapter and leave it permanently attached. USB-A is a legacy connector and needs to just die already.

Why does it need to die?

because inferior tech that lasts a long time has a constant tax on productivity.

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Post by rnk »

ghaff wrote: post #39
mattl wrote: post #35

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Why does it need to die?

The argument is that it's legacy and it will die because USB-C is better is a variety of ways. And in true Apple fashion, Apple is killing it somewhat aggressively. Though it's not just Apple. Something like a Google Pixelbook is USB-C only as well.

The same thing can be said for the unnecessary apple lightning plug - it serves no purpose other than apple selling adapters and blocking usb-c use. Yet it keeps being used. Lots of companies have things with only usb-c but the real problem is not new use, it's the billions of devices with usb-a plugs on them. In my house there are probably 10 usb-c plugs across several computers and 100 usb-a things to plug in.

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Post by chrischen »

bee_rider wrote: post #38
threeseed wrote: post #26

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Just buy a USB-C to USB-A adapter and leave it permanently attached. USB-A is a legacy connector and needs to just die already.

Like just constantly have a dongle hanging off the side of your laptop, waiting to get bent? Possibly damaging to port?

Then don't get the dongle. Just upgrade your accessory to use USB type C. Having a bulky USB A port just to appease the 1% of users who spend $2000 on a shiny new macbook but cheap out on a mouse they've been using from the 90s? I exaggerate, but if you really want to keep your old accessories then leave the dongle permanently attached to the accessory. You can get like a 10 pack for like $5 probably.

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Post by leipert »

bee_rider wrote: post #38
threeseed wrote: post #26

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Just buy a USB-C to USB-A adapter and leave it permanently attached. USB-A is a legacy connector and needs to just die already.

Like just constantly have a dongle hanging off the side of your laptop, waiting to get bent? Possibly damaging to port?

More like: constantly attached to the cable. Only USB-A device I use is a printer and I have an adapter permanently attached to the cable.

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Post by simonh »

outcoldman wrote: post #21
idoh wrote: post #4

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It has the ambition, agree that they haven't figured it out yet. I think that it just might be a hard problem to figure out. I have an iPhone, an iPad, and a MacBook. I really understand when I want to use the phone or the notebook computer. The iPad is sort of in the middle. I have made attempts at doing all my work stuff on it, but failed every time. Simple things like taking a screenshot over here and pasting it o…

I believe it is time for Apple to rethink iPad and MacBook. They both have the same chip now. iPad should be a Macbook Air. Apple already allows to run iPad applications on macOS. They should completely destroy iPadOS, and let macOS run on iPad. I would prefer to have powerful OS (macOS) with some glitches on iPad, than to have an iPad with limited OS (and still have glitches to be honest). I even ok to use similar t…

>iPad should be a Macbook Air.

Isn’t there already a MacBook Air?

It just seems that trying to use the Mac UI purely by touch would be godawful. I mean how do you Command-click, or right-click a UI element with your finger? These are solvable, but only with horrible compromises. The iPad has a completely different interaction model to very good reasons, and this would utterly butcher it. Microsoft tried this approach and it was disastrous.

Yes the iPad has its limitations, but also incredible strengths. The new multitasking gesture system is a vast improvement.

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