Numbers from China always seem outrageous, 400 million views? It's lik there's too many zeroes added.
It's a big country.
Shanghai video overwhelms Chinese censor, gets 400M views
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#52I wonder whether the Shanghai situation will be what finally catalyzes real political reform. The people have put up with a lot from this regime over the years. Shanghai has historically been where anti-government movements get going. It will be interesting to see what transpires over the next few months.
I dunno, one of the stronger sentiments seems to be "the Shanghai government is fucking this up, we need the central government to take over and fix this".
Shanghai gov did fuck up. Now Beijing gov is fucking up.
Re: Shanghai video overwhelms Chinese censor, gets 400M views
#53I wonder whether the Shanghai situation will be what finally catalyzes real political reform. The people have put up with a lot from this regime over the years. Shanghai has historically been where anti-government movements get going. It will be interesting to see what transpires over the next few months.
Is xi Jinping’s grip on power really that strong? Is there no chance the CCP can vote to remove him and change course? I doubt all of them feel great about returning to a new Mao-like era when the more economically free system was clearly pleasant enough.
The congress in October is precisely why the covid 0 policy is maintained, so he won't be blamed for a large outbreak.
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#54So...how can we trust the writings of the author? Can the data be validated elsewhere? A video posted 8PM with ...11PM it has 30 million views...midnight 100 million, 1:05AM, 300 million. There were 200 million WeChat users up between 12AM and 1:05AM who viewed it?
And with all those views - the Chinese government did not hold a conference call till 12:30PM? 12 hours later?
I'm no dictator, but I would have circuit breakers much earlier than at 400 million, and if things go 'red' I wouldn't wait till after lunch the next day to convene a meeting. But, that's just me.
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#55The secret police apparently got to the author of the video: - "“However, I don’t wish this video to be distributed in the directions I don’t want,” he added. “I hope everyone stops sharing, or please asking people you know to stop sharing.”" https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/22/sound-of-april...
Did you just make that up?
Re: Shanghai video overwhelms Chinese censor, gets 400M views
#56I wonder whether the Shanghai situation will be what finally catalyzes real political reform. The people have put up with a lot from this regime over the years. Shanghai has historically been where anti-government movements get going. It will be interesting to see what transpires over the next few months.
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#57How did this article get the view "behind the curtain"? Conference calls of the Beijing network surveillance office are hardly public knowledge? Together with the imprecise writing ("All the alerts went red") the articles claims are hard to take at face value.
That's the part that stood out to me, doesn't seem plausible that a random account on substack knows so much about behind the scene stuffs. Even things like the 400m number (or any number in there actually), where did those numbers come from? I don't even know what the original platform of the video was, which I assumed was not Youtube?
It's largely translated from a Chinese social media post [1] that's been floating around without clear attribution.
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#58> At this time the public opinion control system warning was triggered, and manual intervention began. ... manual intervention could not keep up with the speed of retweeting and posting. All available staff were called up to support the suppression effort. How does the authors know all this? This sounds like super detailed insider information.
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Re: Shanghai video overwhelms Chinese censor, gets 400M views
#59The secret police apparently got to the author of the video: - "“However, I don’t wish this video to be distributed in the directions I don’t want,” he added. “I hope everyone stops sharing, or please asking people you know to stop sharing.”" https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/apr/22/sound-of-april...
Reminds me a little of You should migrate any data encrypted by TrueCrypt to encrypted disks or virtual disk images supported on your platform. [0] [0] http://truecrypt.sourceforge.net
How so? Do you think that message was coerced?
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#60One thing that I observe about how China deals with COVID: leadership assumes that they have perfect control over perfect people. Therefore they try these type of solutions like complete lock-down of a city of 26m people. They assume that they are perfect as leaders, so planning is perfect and takes everything into consideration. They assume that people will execute their orders perfectly, even under extreme hardship…
I like to use an analogy where every country is represented by a couple of people in a bar. China is the group who plans their consumptions two months in advance and sticks to its plan. America is the group that gets into a brawl in one moment, and in the next, builds a functional rocket in the parking lot.
I have an easier to understand analogy: China is the country that will try to solve an integral using Gaussian quadrature while USA will use some kind of Monte Carlo.