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The Psychedelic Experience: A new concept in psychotherapy (1962) [pdf]

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I have an extraordinarily rare mental/neurological issue called Body Integrity Dysphoria, which makes me want to be disabled (specifically paraplegic or to lose my legs.) I've had it since age six, and it's only gotten less bearable with time. All the meds and therapy I've tried have done nothing to help.

I'm planning to try psychedelic psychotherapy to treat my BID. I doubt it will relieve the desires - it seems more like being trans than anything - but I'm desperate, and maybe it'll help me accept my condition, or decide whether to try getting (sketchy, grey-market) surgery. Psychedelics have helped with other kinds of body dysmorphia, at least. Worth a shot?

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i say it again and again whenever i see these threads: psilocybin mushroom kicks down depression so hard it can't get up and bother you again. no SSRIs, no marijuana after taking it. anxiety and ptsd are still there tho so i think that requires something else. also something about THC that seems to reverse the benefits I got from psilocybin. cessation of THC seems to put me "back" on track if that makes sense. discla…

Any advice on the sitter? I don't have the perfect friend available, not sure there's an option here except to do it alone or not at all

There are actually some online sitters like those at https://tripsit.me

They're not ideal, but better than nothing.

Even better would be to start making friends in the psychedelic community -- which is getting easier to do all the time, and to maybe find an underground guide. Another way to go is to sign up for a research study.

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I have an extraordinarily rare mental/neurological issue called Body Integrity Dysphoria, which makes me want to be disabled (specifically paraplegic or to lose my legs.) I've had it since age six, and it's only gotten less bearable with time. All the meds and therapy I've tried have done nothing to help. I'm planning to try psychedelic psychotherapy to treat my BID. I doubt it will relieve the desires - it seems mor…

I hope that if you do this, you only do it with an trained psychedelic therapist who you like, respect, and trust... and who provides lots of therapy before and lots of integration after.

Unfortunately there's not yet enough known about these substances to predict whether they'll work for a rare condition.. besides, everyone's different, and everyone reacts to these substances differently. They're pretty unpredictable. So it might work for you, it might not.

A lot also depends on how they're used, where, and with whom -- what's known as "set and setting". I'd recommend reading James Fadiman's Psychedelic Explorer's Guide[1] for lots of good advice on this subject.

[1] - https://www.amazon.com/Psychedelic-Explorers-Guide-Therapeut...

Re: The Psychedelic Experience: A new concept in psychotherapy (1962) [pdf]

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I have an extraordinarily rare mental/neurological issue called Body Integrity Dysphoria, which makes me want to be disabled (specifically paraplegic or to lose my legs.) I've had it since age six, and it's only gotten less bearable with time. All the meds and therapy I've tried have done nothing to help. I'm planning to try psychedelic psychotherapy to treat my BID. I doubt it will relieve the desires - it seems mor…

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I have an extraordinarily rare mental/neurological issue called Body Integrity Dysphoria, which makes me want to be disabled (specifically paraplegic or to lose my legs.) I've had it since age six, and it's only gotten less bearable with time. All the meds and therapy I've tried have done nothing to help. I'm planning to try psychedelic psychotherapy to treat my BID. I doubt it will relieve the desires - it seems mor…

I hope that if you do this, you only do it with an trained psychedelic therapist who you like, respect, and trust... and who provides lots of therapy before and lots of integration after. Unfortunately there's not yet enough known about these substances to predict whether they'll work for a rare condition.. besides, everyone's different, and everyone reacts to these substances differently. They're pretty unpredictabl…

thank you for the advice and particularly for the book recommendation. I definitely want to get an excellent therapist who's compassionate with my condition and whom I feel safe with. I have no idea how to find one, but perhaps the therapists open-minded and curious enough to explore psychedelic therapy will be interested in taking on a new challenge like BID. heck, they could write me up as a case study.

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I hope that if you do this, you only do it with an trained psychedelic therapist who you like, respect, and trust... and who provides lots of therapy before and lots of integration after. Unfortunately there's not yet enough known about these substances to predict whether they'll work for a rare condition.. besides, everyone's different, and everyone reacts to these substances differently. They're pretty unpredictabl…

thank you for the advice and particularly for the book recommendation. I definitely want to get an excellent therapist who's compassionate with my condition and whom I feel safe with. I have no idea how to find one, but perhaps the therapists open-minded and curious enough to explore psychedelic therapy will be interested in taking on a new challenge like BID. heck, they could write me up as a case study.

"I have no idea how to find one"

Try asking around at psychedelic conferences or at meetings of a psychedelic society[1] near you.

[1] - https://www.tripsitters.org/directory

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This is an incredible article. So beautifully and sensitively written. It is wonderful to know that the methods described here are just now becoming possible to enact legally. But damn. Here’s the rough schedule: 200 mcg LSD at 9am followed up an hour later by a full dose of mescaline and then 5 hours later a dose of amphetamine. At 5:30p they are sent home with a friend and given a sleeping pill. I’ve tried a lot, b…

I wonder if the amphetamines are useful for reinforcing the newly-created neural connections created during the trip.

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There is not a chemical solution to a spiritual problem. New concepts are exciting, but the Indigenous Mexican use of psilocin in treatment of things such as depression, addiction, and other ailments of the soul are fundamentally integrated into their Christian beliefs and practices. If the tech bros of San Francisco are seeking a cure to their existential despair, they should turn to San Francisco the man, the legen…

Assuming a "spiritual" dimension, it's fair to say that there are an infinite number of ways to navigate it.

Certainly... but there are not an infinite number of ways to reach the same outcome!

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This is an incredible article. So beautifully and sensitively written. It is wonderful to know that the methods described here are just now becoming possible to enact legally. But damn. Here’s the rough schedule: 200 mcg LSD at 9am followed up an hour later by a full dose of mescaline and then 5 hours later a dose of amphetamine. At 5:30p they are sent home with a friend and given a sleeping pill. I’ve tried a lot, b…

Holy fucking shit. I would be wrecked after that. Don’t even know what to think about this combo.

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I've heard this is only effective at "heroic" doses -- most studies also use a high dose (>= 25 mg psilocybin)

going to be honest i really don't buy this microdose, your body will quickly build natural tolerance to psilocybin. this is not like THC or alcohol where you drink tiny amounts, the effects will be felt. it makes sense why the body builds tolerance to psilocybin so rapidly and half life is quite long (at least a month or two) for evolutionary purposes. which to me is interesting because it shows that we've evolved to…

I don't think there's been a real study proving microdosing actually does anything? My experience with trying it was kind of useless. The only times I got anything from it was the times where I dosed a little to much by accident.
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