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Re: Guido van Rossum: Let Web3 die in a flaming ball of fire

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Where is the divide? Crypto is 99% full of hucksters, and the remaining 1% are the sorry saps. The intelligent people I know want nothing to do with it. Folks I've met IRL who are into it usually aren't all that bright. The traits they do have are affinity for risk taking, and being somewhat technical but not too much so, just enough to be dangerous. They certainly won't be opening any PRs to fix Ethereum bugs. In ot…

People like Ari Juels, Gavin Wood and Vitalik Buterin aren't intelligent to you?

I know who Guido van Rossum is. I have no idea who those three are.

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My question is why Y Combinator funded anything related to web3 and why it seems to defend these ideas when they are attacked on HN.

Personal theory is that it's becoming obvious that the VC model is very limited, i.e. it largely works in sectors where you rapidly scale up a product with zero marginal costs of production which is pretty much only software, and they've run out of social networks to fund.

In other sectors be it healthcare, construction, anything involving people or the 'world of atoms' as Thiel liked to put it things aren't going that great. Web3 seems increasingly the only thing to throw billions at.

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The interesting thing about crypto to me is how there seems to be a deep divide among very smart people, some who think it's the greatest thing ever and some who think it's a fraud. I can't remember when there's ever been such a Bigendian-scale dispute in technology before. Can you?

How many of these "very smart" people were just early adopters of cryptocurrencies? Usually there is a financial conflict of interest which causes people to overlook the extremely negative aspects of web3/cryptocurrencies. Anecdotally I have seen a lot of people who were previously gung-ho cash out and sour on the whole space.

My take on smart people in the crypto space comes down to the Upton Sinclair quote, "It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it."

Re: Guido van Rossum: Let Web3 die in a flaming ball of fire

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The original tweet was asking for "any future of python in web3 domain? specific in @ethereum @solana" Web3.js - the 7 year old library for communicating with any EVM has an actively maintained and fully featured python version. Solana.py is available for the Solana ecosystem These libraries typically make it very easy to connect to the nearest node, which you can treat as pay-once-read-forever compute instances. Whe…

Pay once read forever is the latest scam. Pay once read until it stops working.

Can you elaborate? None of these Virtual Machines go away because so many people run them and can run them, including yourself. You can branch off the current state or any prior state and run/execute it locally at any point in time, without needing the resources to run the whole blockchain. This is enough for you and your community/clients to have the data to move it all somewhere else, if necessary. If you need all the prior states for some reason, someone will have it for you to bootstrap from. What would stop working?

and when you mean latest scam ... how? all - or all major - blockchains have had this feature since day 1. reading is free, writing is not. now all the nodes in most networks can function as event-driven compute services, similar to aws lambda and other products, except reading and bandwidth is free.

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Where is the divide? Crypto is 99% full of hucksters, and the remaining 1% are the sorry saps. The intelligent people I know want nothing to do with it. Folks I've met IRL who are into it usually aren't all that bright. The traits they do have are affinity for risk taking, and being somewhat technical but not too much so, just enough to be dangerous. They certainly won't be opening any PRs to fix Ethereum bugs. In ot…

There is a real cohort of libertarian folks who really do want digital anonymous cash replacement.

I find it endlessly amusing that the subset of libertarians who love to berate socialism "as never having worked" by pointing to Bolshevik Russia have limitless patience for the at-scale failures of crypto. Obviously not all libertarians, but quite I large number that I've bickered with on HN/Reddit.

Re: Guido van Rossum: Let Web3 die in a flaming ball of fire

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People like Ari Juels, Gavin Wood and Vitalik Buterin aren't intelligent to you?

I know who Guido van Rossum is. I have no idea who those three are.

Just to be clear, there's very little you (or any readers) ought to conclude from the fact that you know who Guido van Rossum is but are unaware of those other people.

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Where is the divide? Crypto is 99% full of hucksters, and the remaining 1% are the sorry saps. The intelligent people I know want nothing to do with it. Folks I've met IRL who are into it usually aren't all that bright. The traits they do have are affinity for risk taking, and being somewhat technical but not too much so, just enough to be dangerous. They certainly won't be opening any PRs to fix Ethereum bugs. In ot…

In my anecdotal experience, every one of my closest friends who are all very successful silicon valley software engineers are hugely bullish on crypto and defi.

Sounds like you hang with a certain crowd. Unfortunately, being a "successful SV engineer" doesn't mean one is particularly intelligent. In fact, I think we tend towards some other common and frankly ugly human traits- primarily greed and selfishness, without giving much back to our communities. IME, crypto bros are especially guilty of this.

"Crypto is bad for the earth? Well fuck it, ima still get mine."

Even though I can't personally get behind it, it's easy understand the appeal of hopping on the wagon to make some easy money. Especially if one feels FOMO and has little empathy for others or concern about the long-term prospects for humanity surviving.

Re: Guido van Rossum: Let Web3 die in a flaming ball of fire

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Isn't a brutish tweet still a brutish tweet no matter who its from? There have been infinitely more interesting crypto conversation starters on this board than this - I don't care who the author is - I care about the content, of which this has none.
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