Nah, my iPhone is okay. The day it stops working or getting updated I will throw it away and buy another.
Or just trade it in — you can still do that directly with apple back to the 6s (which is 7 years old now). Used market for iPhones is pretty good too; apple products retain resale value better than others. Ultimately, given the above, I don’t think ewaste is a big problem with iPhones. Apple either refurbishes and sells it in a market that still values older phones, or recycles it. I also support right to repair and…
The case for LineageOS and the PinePhone
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#52Nah, my iPhone is okay. The day it stops working or getting updated I will throw it away and buy another.
Or just trade it in — you can still do that directly with apple back to the 6s (which is 7 years old now). Used market for iPhones is pretty good too; apple products retain resale value better than others. Ultimately, given the above, I don’t think ewaste is a big problem with iPhones. Apple either refurbishes and sells it in a market that still values older phones, or recycles it. I also support right to repair and…
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#53On a very related topic I received my Purism phone recently. Worked great... once. Now it's bricked after recharging. I haven't had time to reach out for support and certainly need to do that, but after waiting a very long time for the phone I'm too demoralized to make this a priority. Perhaps I should've bought the Pinephone, or installed Lineage on my old pixel... but time is a scarce commodity.
Its sad how utterly terrible the Pusrim phones are, can they even make a _phone calls_ reliably?
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#54Looks like the server got hugged. Web archive link: https://web.archive.org/web/20220418204119/https://jleightca...
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#55I wish Sailfish OS had a mention. If someone tries to escape the Android/iOS duopoly, it's probably the most mature linux based distribution out there. It's not fully open source that's true, but it can be daily driven on a number of modern(ish) compatible hardware. The most prominent of them being some of Sony's Xperia's line(official) and a slew of other older devices through the efforts of a community of enthusias…
They claim to be compatible with android apps in their site, how true is that? For me, the problem with phones is the sense that you're just one step away of having no more OS updates, or updates making it slower, or basically getting locked-in in some way. Phones feel very different to computers.
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#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
Snapchat refuses to let you access their services at all via browser. And most banks offer you a restricted set of functionality via browser, e.g., no taking pictures of checks to deposit (in fact, I can't think of any banks that do let you do that via browser).
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#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which major banking and communications companies refuse to let you access their services via browser? This is when we absolutely need to name and shame.
Snapchat refuses to let you access their services at all via browser. And most banks offer you a restricted set of functionality via browser, e.g., no taking pictures of checks to deposit (in fact, I can't think of any banks that do let you do that via browser).
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#58I simply cannot relate with this hook.
> Don't smartphones... kind of suck?
No, smartphones are kinda magical. They take better snapshots than my first DSLR, they play games at higher fidelity than my first gaming PC, and they’re general purpose computing devices with better battery life, connectivity, and portability than my first laptop.
> How many times have you had to replace a phone in the past 10 years?
Twice. My first smartphone was the Nexus 4 way back in 2012. I moved on to iPhone with iPhone 6s, and then upgraded to iPhone 12 Mini last year because I was enraptured by the faster performance, better camera, and small size.
> Do you have a drawer of random crap with a growing pile of phones?
I definitely have a random crap drawer, but it contains no phones. My Nexus 4 went on to become a dev testing device until it was resold for parts. My iPhone 6s still sits in my drone bag so I can use it to control the drone while shooting other video on my 12 Mini.
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I dunno, I just can’t relate to the problems presented. Maybe it’s because I have only gotten top-of-the-line devices from companies who promised software longevity. Maybe it’s because I didn’t feel financially well off enough to jump on the upgrade cycle (until recently) and made do with older/slower devices for longer than most people. But the world of smartphones, from my perspective, kicks ass.
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#59I like the idea of a more open phone a lot but dispute the "Smartphones are shit" premise. I think modern smart phones are an unbelievably awesome value. Battery, display, wireless and processing power have advanced at such an unbelievable rate that we have something in our pockets that far exceeds predictions of 20, 30, 100 years ago. The problem is that we don't want to pay what it really costs to have such a great…
Last time I checked, Apple does not subsidize their hardware and actually earns majority their money off of the hardware markup, not the services.
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#60If the PinePhone had a halfway decent camera I would still use it as a daily driver; but because I had to pocket a separate camera for the few months that I did use it, the device now collects dust in a drawer.