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Re: Video games are kinda boring

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Post by kbenson »

BookPage wrote: post #37
kbenson wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Play Tarkov, it will destroy your faith in the concept of faith.

As someone who played Rust and had to remove it from my steam account because of how much I loved it - can you elaborate?

Oh boy, here we go. First, I meant that on multiple levels. Tarkov has some interesting dynamics with competition and dual classes of players, and competing incentives to both team up and betray others based on in-game tasks and rep systems. The high emphasis on looting (my understanding is it's like Rust but more) and penalties for dying (you lose what you brought in), make for tense interactions. They just added in-game VoIP this last wipe (late December. Every 6 months or so they wipe player status and make everyone start over along with a big patch to change some of the game, because it's still beta).

That's the player side. The other faith you'll lose is in the developers to fix your pet peeve bug, because while they make large gains and fix many things, other small things tend to be left for a long time that drive people crazy.

I've not played Rust, but from what I've seen of it and what people have commented, Tarkov is like Rust but more extreme and more realistic. Depending on why you liked Rust, you might downright love Tarkov, and it's already highly addictive, so maybe don't install it? It often feels like Dark Souls the looter FPS edition, because it's so, so rough sometimes.

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Post by bakugo »

Lamad123 wrote: post #26
tomatowurst wrote: post #10

I really do not like these type of articles. I did X, Y, Z and therefore it is justified enough for me to make overreaching claims. Video games are still very fun and very profitable for the rest of us. Wish I could mute HN accounts like I mute ppl on twitter, not enough to signal an explicit exclusion but enough for me to ignore whatever they have to say in the future because of misalignment of values in the present…

It's largely a matter of opinion!! For almost a decade, I've never played a game apart from that dinosaur thing on chrome when there is no Internet!

Kinda proving the point there. You not playing games has absolutely nothing to do with whether or not they are enjoyable.

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Post by andrewstuart »

I found this happens as I get older.

For a game to really grab me it has to be an exact match to the sort of game I really like.

I do wonder if it relates to imagination also seeming to fade with age.

I'm just alot less interested in games now than I was when younger.

Re: Video games are kinda boring

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Post by bcrosby95 »

koof wrote: post #19

I've carried around a certain kind of disappointment about video games ever since I was a kid. I knew I really liked them as a concept, but few stuck and I liked reading game magazines more. I started playing TTRPGs like D&D with some friends about a year and a half ago. They feel closer to the ideal of what my brain wants from at least some kinds of games. Somewhere between TTRPGs, reading (esp. fiction), and embrac…

My favorite part of video games was exploring a world with my friends. First MUDs, then EverQuest.

But nowadays everyone just uses guides. I guess they didn't really enjoy that aspect. Now it's all about doing mechanics and advancement.

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Post by throwaway17_17 »

maerF0x0 wrote: post #2

I too have found video games boring. I want something like a MMORTS with automation and no hella long timers, on a multi faction map (4?) where you wage war and the game is intended to have an eventual total winner (maybe across 3 months?) Where wins create real consequences like buffs, resources, strategic locations etc. Then it can reset and we can play again. I could see roles and interactions playing out a lot li…

If you swapped to turn based (with time restricted turn length) and inserted a dedicated tactical combat at varying element size layer to enhance the strategic layer I would probably actually play an online game.

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Post by psacawa »

There's a video game that never bores me called Linux. You should try it out.

In Linux, you can download software, and learn to use it to solve a wide array of problems. You can edit files, one of life's simple pleasures. If you find yourself repeating a task, you can find ways to automate it. Doing an old task faster means you levelled up, which gets the blood flowing. You can explore vast worlds (ecosystems/code bases) and satisfy your intellectual/narrative curiosity. The game has multiplayer elements too.

All of this is lots of *fun* if you're not doing for $JOB. I'm personally addiccted to this video game, and play it hours daily.

The above is sort of a joke, but I really do feel this way. Linux+OSS is a video game.

Re: Video games are kinda boring

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Post by jjcm »

There are different goals with games. For the author, they want a specific genre that hasn't really been done before (massively multiplayer co-op) because they want a grand unified goal to cooperate with people towards.

That doesn't mean that games are boring though, especially when looking at the subset op mentioned. In most of those games the goal is to beat your opponent (with the exception of metal gear and payday) through dexterity or skill - it's high intensity and can get hollow when you stagnate in skill level.

Other goals might be engineering success (factorio, dyson sphere project, satisfactory), or unique experiences (stanley parable, superhot), or group fun (among us, gorilla tag), or just a great storyline (disco elysium, undertale, hades).

One goal might be played out for OP, but there are many other ways to enjoy games.

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Post by thecsw »

bcrosby95 wrote: post #54
koof wrote: post #19

I've carried around a certain kind of disappointment about video games ever since I was a kid. I knew I really liked them as a concept, but few stuck and I liked reading game magazines more. I started playing TTRPGs like D&D with some friends about a year and a half ago. They feel closer to the ideal of what my brain wants from at least some kinds of games. Somewhere between TTRPGs, reading (esp. fiction), and embrac…

My favorite part of video games was exploring a world with my friends. First MUDs, then EverQuest. But nowadays everyone just uses guides. I guess they didn't really enjoy that aspect. Now it's all about doing mechanics and advancement.

author here. I agree! The best part of games is the social aspect, which if we have been losing (in the West, at least) since the deindustrilization times, games should be able to connect people more, rather than forcing them to the manual labor of grinding and gacha (there are players that seem to enjoy that though)

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Post by umvi »

beebmam wrote: post #25
thesuitonym wrote: post #3

It seems like what the author really wants is not to play a video game, but to participate in society.

I think this sums up this article perfectly. There are big social problems among Millennials and younger (at least in the West); many of them are desperate to participate in their societies meaningfully and be rewarded (individually or collectively) for doing so. The "I want a big picture, a grand goal that we strive towards. Something noble that we yearn for" quote from this article sums that up perfectly. I, thankf…

> "I want a big picture, a grand goal that we strive towards. Something noble that we yearn for"

In fact this is not unique to millennials but is an age old struggle of humanity where religion is discovered, abandoned for one reason or another, then rediscovered again once secularism/nihilism doesn't provide the fulfilling sense of purpose everyone yearns for, ad infinitum

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