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Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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I don't get it, CNN+ looks exactly the opposite of what we need as a country. I looked at their show offerings[0] and 75% of them looked like true crime dramas. If I wanted a news source that would make me live in perpetual fear I'd go to Fox. Thinking there's a gunman around every corner is what we used to make fun of Fox viewers for (and their need to carry a weapon to respond to said gunman). Maybe it's just me, b…

>If I wanted a news source that would make me live in perpetual fear I'd go to Fox. Thinking there's a gunman around every corner is what we used to make fun of Fox viewers for (and their need to carry a weapon to respond to said gunman). Wow, you weren't kidding. I was at least expecting it to differ from fox by showing different kinds of crime, but nope - subway shootings in NYC was the first thing I saw. Who the h…

> subway shootings in NYC was the first thing I saw

Today isn't a normal day or a good day to compare news sources; there was a mass shooting in which at least 10 people were shot and 28 injured. That subway shooting is also the top story on Google News and the NY Times website.

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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It has been said the reality has a liberal bias.

...by people who have a liberal bias.

That's not really a helpful point. You've introduced a tautology.

People who rely on faithful, factual descriptions of reality would be liberals if reality had a liberal bias and they interpreted reality accurately.

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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I didn't ever understand the value proposition here. I already get CNN thru YTTT. Or I can go to CNN.com for more choices. Why do I need to pay $$ for a different CNN source?

The other problem is cnn+ doesn't actually give you live cnn. It's additional content. I've seen some speculation it was simply a play to keep talent who are being courted by big platforms. Giving said talent an outlet to try different format shows with more freedom, etc... would help lock them in.

> cnn+ doesn't actually give you live cnn

Ok, now that's just insane.

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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...by people who have a liberal bias.

That's not really a helpful point. You've introduced a tautology. People who rely on faithful, factual descriptions of reality would be liberals if reality had a liberal bias and they interpreted reality accurately.

It's a completely BS statement, so I don't know what you're trying to say. It's not even possible for reality to have a bias in the first place. Reality just... is. It's the people who try to tell you what reality is that have biases.

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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That's not really a helpful point. You've introduced a tautology. People who rely on faithful, factual descriptions of reality would be liberals if reality had a liberal bias and they interpreted reality accurately.

It's a completely BS statement, so I don't know what you're trying to say. It's not even possible for reality to have a bias in the first place. Reality just... is. It's the people who try to tell you what reality is that have biases.

It's glib, but the meaning is that rational observation tends to strongly disfavor conservative views. Things like climate denial and supply-side economics that are tentpoles of conservatism consistently fail to hold up to any level of scrutiny. Modern American republicans are currently hanging their hats on completely farcical assertions that the 2020 election was stolen and Democrats are all pedophiles. When an outlet like CNN reports the truth, they are going to appear liberal in comparison.

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a completely BS statement, so I don't know what you're trying to say. It's not even possible for reality to have a bias in the first place. Reality just... is. It's the people who try to tell you what reality is that have biases.

It's glib, but the meaning is that rational observation tends to strongly disfavor conservative views. Things like climate denial and supply-side economics that are tentpoles of conservatism consistently fail to hold up to any level of scrutiny. Modern American republicans are currently hanging their hats on completely farcical assertions that the 2020 election was stolen and Democrats are all pedophiles. When an out…

I understand what the phrase is trying to convey. It's literally just saying "I agree with things that conform to my biases" though.

You have a liberal bias, and you think conservatives are wrong? Wow, that's a first! And vice-versa.

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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I don't get it, CNN+ looks exactly the opposite of what we need as a country. I looked at their show offerings[0] and 75% of them looked like true crime dramas. If I wanted a news source that would make me live in perpetual fear I'd go to Fox. Thinking there's a gunman around every corner is what we used to make fun of Fox viewers for (and their need to carry a weapon to respond to said gunman). Maybe it's just me, b…

"If I wanted a news source that would make me live in perpetual fear I'd go to Fox."

You could literally pick any of them to get your daily allowance of fear. They all lead and follow with some form of bloody hook to get the echo chamber reverberating.

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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I used to really like CNN back in like 2010. Over the years its just become worse and worse to the point I don't read it anymore. It's basically turned into gossip news and is constantly skewing reality in favor of profits. I'm over it, and I think most other people are as well.

Man you missed CNN in the early 1990s. I used to watch Larry King interviews with my dad. He was so normal and direct and human.

There was not-great stuff then too. Wolf Blitzer, for example, seemed to rise quickly and get a lot of air time mostly because he happened to be the one doing the remote reports from Baghdad in Desert Storm.

Re: Big cuts coming for CNN+ after slow start

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Man you missed CNN in the early 1990s. I used to watch Larry King interviews with my dad. He was so normal and direct and human.

There was not-great stuff then too. Wolf Blitzer, for example, seemed to rise quickly and get a lot of air time mostly because he happened to be the one doing the remote reports from Baghdad in Desert Storm.

Wolf Blitzer was the one who observed off the cuff that the Katrina refugees he was seeing were "so poor, and so black"
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