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Re: Ask HN: What are the next internet infra problems?

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Inter-planetary internet... How do you play a game when few of the players are on Mars?

Even with high ping, application layer is probably the wrong place to solve this problem. We'll likely get email working as one of the first problems and be back to correspondence chess and the like. Even Civilization 5/6 works over email.

https://gaming.stackexchange.com/questions/8111/how-do-you-p...

Apparently people mail each other save games.

Re: Ask HN: What are the next internet infra problems?

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I'm pretty sure that BGP is still horribly insecure at its core, which means that all it takes for BGP hijacking to occur is for someone to forget to configure their filters properly.

(See: that time that a bunch of Google traffic started getting routed through Russia. Or the time that YouTube became inaccessible to the entire world)

Re: Ask HN: What are the next internet infra problems?

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post #22

De-ossifying the Internet is necessary for solving many other problems like the IPv6 and RPKI transitions. There's a lot of room to optimize latency whether it's removing bufferbloat, L4S, or cISP.

There is not many ways to get rid of bufferbloat if you want to keep packet routing/switching networks.

Obviously we can't eliminate all buffering but excess buffering can be reduced.

Re: Ask HN: What are the next internet infra problems?

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Cheap reliable last mile internet. The core and edge is solved. Around 37 percent of the world's population (2.9 billion people) have never used the Internet (1 in 3 people), per the UN’s 2021 report on the topic. https://www.itu.int/en/mediacentre/Pages/PR-2021-11-29-Facts...

That's important for poverty-stricken people (and slaves) to be able to accept crypto donations and payments directly... but what if it becomes a scam?

Even homeless people in the west should be able to get money that way.

So an .eth domain for every person?

Re: Ask HN: What are the next internet infra problems?

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Cheap reliable last mile internet. The core and edge is solved. Around 37 percent of the world's population (2.9 billion people) have never used the Internet (1 in 3 people), per the UN’s 2021 report on the topic. https://www.itu.int/en/mediacentre/Pages/PR-2021-11-29-Facts...

That's important for poverty-stricken people (and slaves) to be able to accept crypto donations and payments directly... but what if it becomes a scam? Even homeless people in the west should be able to get money that way. So an .eth domain for every person?

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Re: Ask HN: What are the next internet infra problems?

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post #14

Those companies were not created to solve those problems, but to profit by them. Do you think that, say, Cloudflare would like a better web protocol which would be impossible to DDoS?

If such a thing was possible we'd be the first to roll it out. DDoS is a scourge which is why we made DDoS mitigation unmetered on all plans including free: https://blog.cloudflare.com/unmetered-mitigation/

Allow me to paraphrase your comment:

“It’s not possible to solve this problem, except by centralizing all the web through us. Aren’t we generous to not punish our customers when they get hit by this problem?”

Re: Ask HN: What are the next internet infra problems?

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post #14

Those companies were not created to solve those problems, but to profit by them. Do you think that, say, Cloudflare would like a better web protocol which would be impossible to DDoS?

Given that they seem to be backing IPFS, I would say so. https://developers.cloudflare.com/distributed-web/ipfs-gatew...

I see that similarly to Google backing Firefox. On the surface, it seems odd, but probably has some shrewd reason for it, and it would probably cease the moment the backed project got any real traction.

Re: Ask HN: What are the next internet infra problems?

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post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you expand on both of those? They sound really interesting but I'm not sure I understand the issues or use cases.

Provable identity: you get an email, hi i'm a hiring manager from company X, can we get in touch about job Y, could you please send me your (secret) phone number? It should be possible for you, the receiver of the email, to check if the email originated at company X. Digital Notary: this came up in several data privacy discussions. You (A) are in contact with B, but you don't want to send B something like a scan of y…

> It should be possible for you, the receiver of the email, to check if the email originated at company X.

You could check the DKIM signature of the email.

Re: Ask HN: What are the next internet infra problems?

#59
post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I don't quite understand is how these rural areas got electricity. If it's so expensive to run something to a rural area, who ate the cost of providing grid access? Or is cable/fiber just significantly more expensive per mile compared to electricity?

As a society we had a much higher tolerance for risk when the electrical grid was being built. We were perfectly fine with the idea some people would die building it and some people would get electrocuted using it. The world we live in now has much lower tolerance for risk. You can't even screw a wall mount bracket in without carrying liability insurance.

Society's risk tolerance varies with domain. Electrical power systems are well understood and thus we expect them to be as safe as practical.

Contrast that to the reaction to Tesla's autopilot that will happily drive you into an embankment at fatal speeds.

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