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VirtualBox is garbage
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#52Works fine for me - there's aren't any other free options that I'm aware of, so I guess I'm kind of stuck with it.
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#53The project has some other notable issues that can be quite frustrating. Primary among them the performance of the shared folder file system with complex file structures (the reason why Vagrant uses NFS).
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#54i guess not much has changed in their code in 3 years:
http://old.nabble.com/Bug-reports-regarding-Innotek-VirtualB...
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#55Wonder if there's a selection bias here; VirtualBox may be less stable than native hardware or commercial VMs, but it's user base is also using VirtualBox for different scenarios than native users. I know I use VirtualBox all the time to try out "risky" behaviors that often end in a crash, because I know I can just roll back if it doesn't work out.
The issue is that virtualbox is crashing the host kernel, not the guest machines. And specifically that it's polluting Red Hat's automated bug reports from those crashes, and thus wasting QA effort. Being able to filter those out by the taint mechanism in the patch is important and useful information. Read the thread, it's a technical and process discussion, not a flame.
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#56Virtualbox works fine for me. Though I only use it to run Windows XP so I'm probably not a demanding customer, but calling it garbage is kind of over-the top. It's very useful for me for running some windows-only software that refuses to work in Wine, and to test my sw on windows without having to reboot...
I run windows 7 with Aero effects enabled Virtualbox is wonderful. Does it have bugs and need work? Of course. What software doesn't?
kvm, for one. Not quite as featureful, and the UI is a command line (though there's the virt manager stuff that I haven't tried). But it's rock solid virtualization that never gives me problems.
I think people are misunderstanding this thread. This is a kernel developers thread, where Dave Jones is complaining that virtualbox is the source of too much random corruption and arbitrary crashes in the kernel, and he's submitting a patch that "taints" the module such the presence of virtualbox gets flagged in kernel panics (and thus automated bug reports, etc..).
It's unstable software, and that taint is important information that prevents people from wasting effort chasing non-bugs in other components. No one is flaming about it vs. vmware or whatever, or telling you what to use.
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#57I've used it for years on Ubuntu and Windows with almost no issues. This headline is garbage.
Not necessarily. You're presenting a data point only, while the poster of the patch marked the module CRAP for a specific reason - that module produced too many bug reports which are not relevant to the distributions since they originate in vboxdrv. From that perspective vboxdrv is garbage and people who deal with that problem agree. Data point is as relevant as "I keep crossing on red light for years now and nothing…
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Re: VirtualBox is garbage
#58Wonder if there's a selection bias here; VirtualBox may be less stable than native hardware or commercial VMs, but it's user base is also using VirtualBox for different scenarios than native users. I know I use VirtualBox all the time to try out "risky" behaviors that often end in a crash, because I know I can just roll back if it doesn't work out.
The post isn't talking about crashes within VBox, but rather vboxdrv crashing and taking out the host OS, which should (ideally) never happen.
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#59I've been using VirtualBox for the last 15 months on a daily basis. I've used it on Windows XP, Windows 7, Ubuntu and recently on Mac hosts with Windows XP, Windows 7, and Ubuntu guests. I've never ran into any problems with it. The only thing that doesn't work properly is 3D Acceleration which I think has something to do with my system's graphics card probably.
Two of my friends however lost their guest machines (Windows and Ubuntu) on the Mac version. Hope it doesn't happen on my Mac.
In my opinion, VirtualBox is an amazing piece of software, and calling it "garbage" is harsh and unprofessional.
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#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
I run windows 7 with Aero effects enabled Virtualbox is wonderful. Does it have bugs and need work? Of course. What software doesn't?
kvm, for one. Not quite as featureful, and the UI is a command line (though there's the virt manager stuff that I haven't tried). But it's rock solid virtualization that never gives me problems. I think people are misunderstanding this thread. This is a kernel developers thread, where Dave Jones is complaining that virtualbox is the source of too much random corruption and arbitrary crashes in the kernel, and he's su…
"kvm, for one."
Surely you're not saying KVM is bug free? Looks like it. That's almost certainly wrong.