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Launch HN: Koko (YC W22 Nonprofit) – Online Suicide Prevention Kit

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Re: Launch HN: Koko (YC W22 Nonprofit) – Online Suicide Prevention Kit

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Post by dollop43 »

Maybe a dumb question, but I am not sure what is evidence-based online interventions. Maybe an example would help me to understand.

And maybe you could open up your API documentation not behind a registration. I understand you are operating a non profit, and signup is free, but somebody like me does not have a social platform that needs this integration right now, don't like to pretend to be a customer/user in order to read a doc. Maybe after seeing the doc, I can have some idea what is the capabilities and can be used on future project.

Anyway, I like your intent working on helping vulnerable.

Re: Launch HN: Koko (YC W22 Nonprofit) – Online Suicide Prevention Kit

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

Congratulations on the launch!

I have two perspectives on suicide.

First, 'Informed Suicide' where a person rationally determines that there's no point in continuing their life after exhausting all other options. Deliberate hurdles to prevent that person from ending their life through social stigma, criminal action(laws against suicide), unavailability of euthanasia just feels like taking away their right, treating them as a commodity and leading them to painful death or disability through botched suicides.

Second, 'Hasty Suicide' where a person haven't exhausted all options, they like living but they don't like their current life. I think the intervention methods are very useful for preventing such suicides. I hope Koko library comes handy to make this process more efficient to saves more lives 'which want to be saved'.

I see the social and practical reasons for why suicides aren't categorized, I just wish it was.

Re: Launch HN: Koko (YC W22 Nonprofit) – Online Suicide Prevention Kit

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Post by birksherty »

Abishek_Muthian wrote: post #52

Congratulations on the launch! I have two perspectives on suicide. First, 'Informed Suicide' where a person rationally determines that there's no point in continuing their life after exhausting all other options. Deliberate hurdles to prevent that person from ending their life through social stigma, criminal action(laws against suicide), unavailability of euthanasia just feels like taking away their right, treating t…

Totally agree. For some people, forcing them to continue life is like making them suffer for longer. If people can give birth without someone's consent, there should also be a way out if they don't like it, and with dignity instead of going out with huge pain and mess.

Affordable housing and education, livable wage, universal healthcare etc. are suicide prevention. This is what people should be focusing on more.

Re: Launch HN: Koko (YC W22 Nonprofit) – Online Suicide Prevention Kit

#54

Post by Shadonototra »

Why waste money and be based in SF as a non profit? you'd better live elsewhere and have more fund for your mission

Next question, whos is the team behind that non-profit? no faces, it feels almost like a VC scam..

> Use our library of support and referral links (provided as single pages or div blocks)

What do you mean by referral links?

Re: Launch HN: Koko (YC W22 Nonprofit) – Online Suicide Prevention Kit

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Post by throwmeariver1 »

dang wrote: post #24
throwmeariver1 wrote: post #15

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Please don't break the site guidelines when commenting on HN. You can make your substantive points without doing that. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

? Paying with data is still a paywall if I want to use it just because I want to help I can’t without giving up my SUICIDAL users data. Srsly good intentions bad execution and what part of the comment is against the site rules?

Re: Launch HN: Koko (YC W22 Nonprofit) – Online Suicide Prevention Kit

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Post by promedianw »

caslon wrote: post #46
codingdave wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Lives are saved by not having easy information on how to commit suicide. When you talk to suicidal teens, often the reason they seek help is because they don't have a workable plan. So putting these roadblocks in their way drives them to seek help instead of making and carrying out plans. This is basic safety, like locking away knives and medication - don't help them plan.

Encouraging them to make incorrect attempts is outright worse than allowing them to make good ones. There are a lot of ways in which a suicide attempt can go wrong, and pretty much all of them leave the person wanting to die more , not less.

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Re: Launch HN: Koko (YC W22 Nonprofit) – Online Suicide Prevention Kit

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Post by dang »

throwmeariver1 wrote: post #55
dang wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't break the site guidelines when commenting on HN. You can make your substantive points without doing that. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

? Paying with data is still a paywall if I want to use it just because I want to help I can’t without giving up my SUICIDAL users data. Srsly good intentions bad execution and what part of the comment is against the site rules?

Your comment broke at least these guidelines:

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