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Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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Post by xiphias2 »

colesantiago wrote: post #46
janandonly wrote: post #38

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I am not a big fan of alt-coins, but I'm not sure I would dare call ZCash a "Crypto token scam project". A scam in my book has one or more of the following properties: - pre-mined (a part) off all tokes (like ETH ~70%) [1] - has a team that will "rug pull" the users of their coin (think ONEcoin) [2] - Is only paying lip-service to being decentralized (think again ETH) [3] Also, who cares where the money comes from? I…

All of them are, including this 'ZCash'. As long as there are enough greater fools to pump the price of the token. Only for them to lose their money in the end. Tor is already seen in a bad light for being used for illicit activity, terrorism, illegal drugs, etc. We can have and fund tools that enhances privacy without endorsing or taking money from a so called 'cryptocurrency' that exists to distribute fake internet…

At least if the are fake they can't be used for drugs and terrorism. Otherwise it wouldn't be fake :)

You're contradicting yourself many times in this thread.

Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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Post by seanw444 »

colesantiago wrote: post #27
ArtWomb wrote: post #26

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Small crypto grants seem perfectly designed for just such a project as Tor! I mean if one discounts the possibility of a rug pull situation, it has all the hallmarks: privacy preserving, decentralized, fungible ;)

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Bad actors use effective technologies, just like good ones do. So what?

Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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Post by colesantiago »

xiphias2 wrote: post #51
colesantiago wrote: post #46

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All of them are, including this 'ZCash'. As long as there are enough greater fools to pump the price of the token. Only for them to lose their money in the end. Tor is already seen in a bad light for being used for illicit activity, terrorism, illegal drugs, etc. We can have and fund tools that enhances privacy without endorsing or taking money from a so called 'cryptocurrency' that exists to distribute fake internet…

At least if the are fake they can't be used for drugs and terrorism. Otherwise it wouldn't be fake :) You're contradicting yourself many times in this thread.

Wrong.

I explicitly do not call them currencies because they cannot be used as such in the real world. All these tokens are extremely volatile and always used by speculators which makes them useless to be used as a currency.

It is fake money that is being cashed out for fiat money on these unregulated token exchanges, not to mention the decentralised ones.

Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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justinclift wrote: post #41
ggreg84 wrote: post #39

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To many on the internet which was financed by DARPA? The irony is strong on this thread.

Perhaps you're forgetting that although the NSA have at times historically been regarded as good guys, they've since been found to quietly backdoor crypto products (etc) to others detriment. That's a bit different from DARPA.

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Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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Post by colesantiago »

seanw444 wrote: post #53
colesantiago wrote: post #27

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Bad actors use effective technologies, just like good ones do. So what?

So this means that Tor taking money from Zcash is an explicit endorsement of the crypto token space and the scams and speculation and environmental destruction they harbour.

Not to mention the ransomware enablement of a so called privacy token.

I don't think Tor would want to be associated with all of that on top of all the other illicit activities they are already associated with.

Re: Arti – An implementation of Tor in Rust

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Post by nyanpasu64 »

iamnotarobotman wrote: post #49
justinclift wrote: post #29

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Seems to be exactly as unfounded as yours, yes?

Is it? There's just too many to list here, even after the shutting down of Silk Road, but these crackdowns cannot be ignored; and look what they found. Majority of criminals using it once again. [0] https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/02/08/349016/a-dark-we... [1] https://www.computerworld.com/article/2845616/biggest-ever-t...

You're moving the goalposts. The people operating darknet markets are not Nazis, extremists, and generally not hitmen and terrorists. I have heard that many onion services host child sexual abuse imagery though, but I've never looked for reliable citations or personally verified.
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