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> Google is holding all your old free G Suite accounts hostage They are not holding these accounts hostage. You can export mail from Google. You can change your MX records to different servers. I've been bit as much as anyone by Google killing products, but honestly, it's amazing they've kept this product free for so long. And in this case, the product isn't being killed; they've simply decided to start charging for…
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There is a hidden cost to this though. Running your own email server, or even having a lesser-known company manage your email server, can cause your emails to be sent to spam without any action on your part. You aren't notified when your email goes to a spam folder, so you always have to worry that the recipient of your emails didn't receive the email, even if you only ever send legitimate emails. If you stay on top…
In theory this shouldn't be a problem if you aren't using a known-trash IP and have SPF and DKIM set up, since the only thing the major inbox providers want is a way to verify and associate spam reputation with a domain instead of an IP. If this really hurts you can just set up Amazon SES use that via SMTP, you'll get 62k free emails a month (always free, not just first 12 months). This even works if you want a mostl…
Im sure just running Mail in a Box on linode would 100% flag it.
I KNOW google would because half the time i socks through one of my linodes (that i have used and owned the IP for years on) i get thrown through all sorts of captchas on services. INCLUDING signing into my own gsuite from it (despite an established history of just doing it).
Unfortunately the big players own mail, they do what they want. In fact having a domain registered with one will do better for your mail reputation than most would care to admit.
Just look at how MS uses SMTPS on port 25, sure they COULD use 587 or 465, but they dont:
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/exchange/mail-flow-best-pra...
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I don't even mind paying for it but the nature of the transition and the cost for the features is obscene. For example, I have a secondary address for business reasons and in the new g suite that has to be an "account" which costs money every month
No it doesn't? You can set up unlimited aliases, afaik. If you want to have separate access however, it does. I'm currently planning to migrate my script-sending email address to mailgun or SES instead of using a separate gmail user.
> Google is holding all your old free G Suite accounts hostage They are not holding these accounts hostage. You can export mail from Google. You can change your MX records to different servers. I've been bit as much as anyone by Google killing products, but honestly, it's amazing they've kept this product free for so long. And in this case, the product isn't being killed; they've simply decided to start charging for…
There is sinking cost fallacy of setting up all of this through them. Like I have 100 domains that I've setup to be able to receive emails through Google. So much work + damage to fix everything. Will probably let it die.
Other commenters have mentioned that 'Legacy G Suite free users will get a free migration option after all'
Any suggestions on a stack if one wants to run their own mail server? Debian with postfix and some sort of round cube still the way to go? I am aware of what it entails regarding IP "cleaning", setting a reverse record, SPF and DKIM. Just looking for tips on the software stack side.
The mail server's IP is a pretty normal cloud VPS IP from a major hosting company. It's not on any public blocklists. I submitted unblock requests to MS, and signed up for their SNDS service, but all requests were denied without explanation and I simply made no progress.
My conclusion is that this route is impossible - do not waste time trying it.
So the last I heard about this, Google had relented to some extent and was going to offer some offramp for people who had data, purchases, etc. in an old free Apps for Domain/G Suite/Workspace account. They had a form you could submit to saying you wanted more information about those options. Has anyone heard any more on this front? I don't mind paying someone else just to run email for my domain (or potentially even…
I migrated to Zoho back in January for email and opened a regular Google account for YouTube etc. Just waiting for them to kick me off now.
How did it go for you and how does Zoho compare? Did you migrate from free G suite specifically? Did you have custom domains?
I migrated to Zoho back in January for email and opened a regular Google account for YouTube etc. Just waiting for them to kick me off now.
How did it go for you and how does Zoho compare? Did you migrate from free G suite specifically? Did you have custom domains?