Google Docs remembers this pageless layout across all of my documents. Would be cool if it did so with the zoom.
I always use 125% because things are too small otherwise and it always switches back to 100%.
Google Docs New Feature: Pageless
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#52Google just reinvented HTML documents. Great.
I for one kinda liked MS FrontPage.
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#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's utterly bizarre just how much Google docs seems to have dropped the ball. It really feels like they haven't developed the product in the past 10 years. This is the first significant feature change that I can recall in a very long time other than minor UI tweaks.
Agreed. It’s really weird; because of the bundling advantage, they don’t have to be better than Notion, they just need to be good enough that the convenience factor wins out. It’s also frustrating because if Google played to their strengths, Docs could be best-in-class; the real problem that everybody is struggling with is internal knowledge management. Why can’t Google build me a privately indexed knowledge graph of…
I’m not convinced Googles smart knowledge engine would work in that environment, it probably relies on lots of people doing lots of searches and clicking links etc
Compared to only the searches being done by a single business and no links in documents
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#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's utterly bizarre just how much Google docs seems to have dropped the ball. It really feels like they haven't developed the product in the past 10 years. This is the first significant feature change that I can recall in a very long time other than minor UI tweaks.
81% of Googles revenue is from advertising, only 7.5% is from Cloud Services (Google Workplaces and Google Cloud Platform) I think its fairly safe to assume that the majority of that cloud revenue is from their Cloud Platform, not Workplaces. So it wouldn't surprise me if its as little as 1-2% of revenue (it could easily be less than 1%). There is no surprise then that it is such a low priority for them. It's mostly…
I totally understand this vision, google docs, google sites, google drive must be really down in Google's priority list. Heck, Google Meet was down there up until two years ago.
The problem I think is that, little by little, users start stepping outside the Google bubble and they start to realize that there's clear benefits. I used to be a 100% google person, then we started using dropbox paper for documents, notion for company wiki (and personal notes too), tandem for video calls.
In 2022, our company is using Google only for email, calendar, and sheets. Two years ago we'd be crazy to even think about that. We're up to the point were it wouldn't seem crazy to go with the Microsoft suite, to be honest.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not from document to block, but from XML-based into database-based. Try to open a Word document with a zip program, all you will see is a lot of folders with XML and blob images. Latex and Word is XML. Notion is database. The benefit of database: History, scale better, multiple users, merge text as diff is simpler +++
Surely once you've got a block inside a block you're back to the XML model again?
XML is a document. A relational database is a relational database. Both can be used to create a tree structure. Notion does it wit a "block" table, each block having a parent block id, and a list of child block ids, allowing tree traversal in both directions.
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#56I'm in the business of building an online word processor - https://www.zoho.com/writer It's interesting how the documents industry is moving from print oriented legacy softwares (Google Docs, Word) to block based, app-ish, smart canvases (Notion, Coda, etc). Also both Microsoft & Google have adopted completely different strategies to compete in this market. Microsoft launched Loop as an entirely new app while Google…
Have you ever tried to print a Notion document? It feels like they made the "Export to PDF" in a weekend. It's hugely underpowered and under-featured. It feels like Notion's demographic just dont need to share documents as documents. Notion would likely have put more effort into that feature if they did.
Export ignores filters on database views! -_-"
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#57I'm in the business of building an online word processor - https://www.zoho.com/writer It's interesting how the documents industry is moving from print oriented legacy softwares (Google Docs, Word) to block based, app-ish, smart canvases (Notion, Coda, etc). Also both Microsoft & Google have adopted completely different strategies to compete in this market. Microsoft launched Loop as an entirely new app while Google…
What's the benefit here? Seems like it's touted as an innovation, but the only thing I see is that page breaks are gone. Which isn't bad, I mostly use Google docs for online articles and to maintain a todo list, so things are now a bit cleaner. But it doesn't seem like a big change...
Right? Isn’t this just the Web Layout view that MS Word has had forever?
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#58But content still can't be collapsed/folded below headers [1]. Because of this, docs could already able to be too big to be useful. "But outlines..." Not helpful since you can't specify to leave out sub-headings. Which means manually editing the outline every update. That's why I've moved 1000+ pages of docs to Obsidian.md this year. I highly recommend, especially if you might be adhd. Edit: to anyone interested, thi…
I’m guessing you can’t have a very wide section of the doc, either. Which is honestly a good thing, in my opinion.
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#59I find this an interesting edge case in writing (mostly engineering docs and strategy for work) that maybe 1% of my audience wants to print out or save as a pdf. And it’s hard to go back and restyle a document to print after it’s written.
As a result, I write in page mode as a hedge against the people who like pages since it’s easier to write in page mode than to do the boring reformats after the writing is done.
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#60I like to be able to ditch the page splits. But I'd love to have an option to keep the "paper" shape, albeit an infinite strip (toilet paper style). All this white horizontal space distracts me
Is "View > Print layout" what you're looking for? It replaces page splits (header/footer whitspace and page margins) with a dashed line.