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Re: “The smartest engineers I know are burned out and starting vegetable gardens”

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I'm definitely not the smartest guy in the room by any stretch, ever, but as a decade+ practicing attorney myself and everyone I know have this same mindset. I even love my job much more than most of my peers. But the bureaucracy, nitpicking, bad attitudes that flow over from peoples' personal lives in to work, petty vindictiveness over perceived slights, frequent unpreparedness of peers and judges and outright hatre…

organizations have a very hard time keeping legitemacy/integrity. there's rarely real pressure to right wrongs, to get the workforce feeling invested in the org.

the Gervais principle is an all too often true framing but with organizations getting bigger and bigger, more massive conglomerates taking the lions share of business, the distance grows. and i personally think more people are awakening to the ridiculousness of the situation. Adam Curtis calls this having to accept & pretend while seeing the slow motion catastrophe "Hyper Normalization."

personally i want to think enabling smaller group empowerment is helpful, as is creating a more dynamic less static set of pairings for people. putting people on multiple groups may alao help. all this goea against the managerial desire for certainty, predictability, the push to de-risk. personally i'd like some orgs to show the bravery to try something, anything else.

Re: “The smartest engineers I know are burned out and starting vegetable gardens”

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On a farm you're alone most of the time. No meetings. Not really any middle management. I grew up on a farm. It's damn hard work and I would never go back to that. But there is appeal in not having to be constantly coordinated, poorly, with other people.

Being alone loses its appeal fast, especially if you're also alone after work or you only have spouse+kids

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Re: “The smartest engineers I know are burned out and starting vegetable gardens”

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think it’s that. I’ve been working remotely for nearly a decade now and the real problems were there before: competence and reachability. Competence, or lack thereof is easier to hide or write off now. People aren’t always reactive or reachable. As for being around other humans, I love that. But not colleagues. I have separate friends. You need the context switch away.

You are probably both correct, for your own situation and personality. Please don't assume there is one universal truth that needs to be forced on others

I'll reply to you instead of the parent.

The parent has always worked remotely and has chosen that.

Everyone the past two years worked remotely and a majority NOT choose it and did not prepare either. Sure, some people turn out to prefer it. But my point is that it's unnatural and unhealthy to force any large cohort into a particular system. So we are in agreement.

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