Newly published 9/11 footage [video]
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#53Something that this angle shows (and that other footage I've seen hints at) is that the second plane would have missed the tower without a pretty serious turn in the last few seconds. That plane is screaming (we're used to a jet that size flying with it's flaps and landing gear down if (roughly) level at that altitude. This turn would have been higher than normal G forces!
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Some 3 letters agency (FBI?) immediately raided all the nearby places that could have had cams and seized everything. I'm pretty sure that it's documented: IIRC footage from a petrol station nearby was confiscated. I was there (at the time, in front of my TV I mean) and I clearly remember the first witnesses being interviewed by reporters: as soon as a witness would say something not fitting the official narrative, i…
It’s interesting to me that even 20 years later, any comments that don’t fit the official narrative still get downvoted on HN (and the rest of the internet). There was such a giant push after it happened to not question the official narrative, and that still remains embedded in everyone’s heads. I wonder how long that will last.
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#56I'll just say this: many here are convinced our AI overlords have landed and we'll soon all be out of jobs and deepfakes are undistinguishable from the real thing. So I'll say this: if you believe AI is advanced, then in 2022 it's not possible to take this video for granted and you have to take into account that all evidence surfacing from now may be deepfakes. I'm not saying they are: I'm saying you have to keep tha…
Please stop. I was in seventh grade when all this went down. It was around the time that they first started putting TVs in classrooms. The teacher flipped the channel to the news when it was announced that an accident occurred and a plane flew into the WTC. Then they kept coming live on TV. In subsequent days I listened to final phone calls between people and their families. The internet was so congested I could bare…
FYI, I attended an elementary school that had TVs in all the classrooms back in 1970.
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#57Definitely a new angle, but it’s also strange after so many years to find good footage like this. The random extra stuff at the end make it feel very genuinely “found an old miniDV tape with some footage of forgotten about.” But it’s also just really weird to hear people talking so clearly the moment after it happens. It’s preserved a slightly surreal moment of shock quite well.
Yeah, it feels similar to reading the first Usenet threads about Chernobyl, AIDS, etc.: http://www.eightyeightynine.com/culture/80susenet.html
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#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
It seems perfectly plausible to me that releasing video of the Pentagon being struck by terrorists would only serve to glorify the events that day. At the end of the day those agencies did their job and secured any footage. This gave the government the opportunity to decide what is released to the public and I think they made the right choice considering the promotional value of it to the terrorists.
That's not how this works. Classified material is not classified because it would make people feel some type of way. It's because the release of the material would have some effect on national security. With the end of the war in Afghanistan, there is no clear reason in my mind why the declassification of any existing video would be a cause of concern. https://www.archives.gov/files/isoo/training/training-reason... h…
Re: Newly published 9/11 footage [video]
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#60I'll just say this: many here are convinced our AI overlords have landed and we'll soon all be out of jobs and deepfakes are undistinguishable from the real thing. So I'll say this: if you believe AI is advanced, then in 2022 it's not possible to take this video for granted and you have to take into account that all evidence surfacing from now may be deepfakes. I'm not saying they are: I'm saying you have to keep tha…