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Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia
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Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia
#52I’d like to get involved but have cursory ‘hacking’ knowledge. I’m handy with a terminal and can program. Would I be of use?
If you have to ask, lone wolf behavior is more likely to end up with you in jail than to do anything that helps Ukraine. If you are serious and are a citizen of a signatory to NATO, consider enlisting with your country's cyber force.
They're not looking for lone wolfers. They are asking for applications:
> "Ukrainian cybercommunity! It's time to get involved in the cyber defense of our country," the post read, asking hackers and cybersecurity experts to submit an application via Google docs, listing their specialties, such as malware development, and professional references.
As long as you're in a country where it's not illegal to help the Ukraine, I say put in an app and see where it goes :-)
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#53I’d like to get involved but have cursory ‘hacking’ knowledge. I’m handy with a terminal and can program. Would I be of use?
Almost certainly not. This isn’t jacking accounts from some corporation or breaking into the network of some jihadi cell/far right group this is a state level actor and can only be equaled by other state level actors of which their only a handful of their caliber.
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#55I'm Ukrainian activist for 10+ years, have been on Maidan, etc, know many other activists. Unfortunately, we have not seen understanding with any government. Looks like, all people who got to government or state organizations, work on classical totalitarian scheme - "for friends all the best, for all others - severity of the law". Mean, system is so much disbalanced, that any government got totalitarian power and doe…
Some of the best developers I've worked with are Ukrainians. I've been hiring there for over 10 years with great results.
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#56Anonymous is supposedly joining the cyber war: https://twitter.com/YourAnonNews/status/1496954233492541444 https://twitter.com/YourAnonOne/status/1496965766435926039 They are claiming responsibility for taking down RT.com and some other Russian sites.
RT.com is still up and running. A DDoS attack is hardly a ‘complex’ attack against Russia and is easily mitigated against these days vs a malware wiper already spreading all over Ukraine. A DDoS is not even remotely considered a ‘hack’. Anonymous is not exactly sophisticated like the ‘Equation Group’ and these sort of DDoS + shodan.io lookups are what script-kiddie jokers do. They have nothing to fight with compared…
rt.com seems down from my perspective
DDoSes are simple tools, but they can be extremely effective at stopping Russian propaganda mills.
Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
> If you really want to help Ukraine, better to contact volunteers-entrepreneurs, who where on Maidan, and who struggle for economic freedoms, and support Ukrainian army as private persons, without government/state. > You could just donate, or you could create some business opportunity, so Ukrainians will make business, export working hours, or export some products to world. This makes sense, but I wonder if this wou…
Thank You for answer. What I see now, kremlin for sure have not prepared for long term war campaign, they just have not built hospitals for wounded (thanks to western sat photos, provided by official sources), and this is extremely important, because in real war, 80% wounded die within 24h if have not received medical care in nearest 1-2 hours. And if will be resistance, attacking forces will have very large number o…
Thank you for the insight. Godspeed. If you have links to organisations we can support from far away (with money, labour or lobbying), those would be appreciated.
Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia
#58Am I the only one who thinks this is well intentioned but kind of silly? I don’t know a lot about this space, but I don’t know especially how many skills translate from offense to defense. Is this basically just a call for folks to turn in their 0days and access or something? Seems wt least marginally more useful than trying to train up a bunch of script kiddies to fight GRU…
Going on the offense can create problems for the aggressor, drawing resources away from their attack. That said, the law in most places isn't going to allow/support this. It could maybe even interfere with state sponsored operations. It would be interesting to see a sort of privateer license in this space. If I remember correctly, Russia pretty much doesn't care about people violating cyber laws in Russia so long as…
>It would be interesting to see a sort of privateer license in this space.
It's a good idea, which has come up in the (relatively) recent past, although not specifically in the cyber domain.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letter_of_marque#21st-century_...
Re: Ukraine calls on hacker underground to defend against Russia
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
RT.com is still up and running. A DDoS attack is hardly a ‘complex’ attack against Russia and is easily mitigated against these days vs a malware wiper already spreading all over Ukraine. A DDoS is not even remotely considered a ‘hack’. Anonymous is not exactly sophisticated like the ‘Equation Group’ and these sort of DDoS + shodan.io lookups are what script-kiddie jokers do. They have nothing to fight with compared…
rt.com seems down from my perspective DDoSes are simple tools, but they can be extremely effective at stopping Russian propaganda mills.
I am not familiar with RT, what "propaganda" were they spreading? I've known of "rt.com" for a while, seeing it posted occasionally, and it never was anything that gave me pause (didn't even known it stood for Russia Today until today).
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#60Interesting, I wonder how hack groups have comms and form groups over stuff like this. I’m not plugged into the hacker underground, how does it work?
If you don't already know, you probably don't want to try committing cyber attacks against a nuclear state.
Is it relevant that they have nukes? Just trying to imagine how that'd work :)