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Re: Slack is down for some users

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Post by tomxor »

bengale wrote: post #43
anderspitman wrote: post #36

The cool thing about Slack (and Discord for that matter) is that it's essentially federated on a technical level. SlackHQ controls all the instances, but the UX is very achievable by an open source alternative. I'm bullish on federated chat in the next few years. It would be awesome to have essentially the same experience as using Slack, but also a server running on our lab's hardware that we can reboot/debug ourselv…

They've got to nail the integrations. Anytime moving to slack alternatives is brought up with people I work with, it always comes down to everything integrating with slack.

^This

We aren't even particularly dependent on slack, but the convenience of a few basic integrations like google calendar make moving to Discord or anything else a non starter.

The integrations, and chat itself needs an open protocol, otherwise it's just going to be more and more of slack in the future.

Re: Slack is down for some users

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Post by suprfsat »

swyx wrote: post #41
rythmshifter03 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't encourage the use of Zoom, they already have enough market share they don't deserve after lying through their teeth to the public on multiple occasions.

what do you mean lying through their teeth? citation needed.

"end to end encryption" means "it's encrypted at both ends"

Re: Slack is down for some users

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Post by aftbit »

bitexploder wrote: post #31
rythmshifter03 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't encourage the use of Zoom, they already have enough market share they don't deserve after lying through their teeth to the public on multiple occasions.

What alternatives do you recommend? As far as I can tell none of the major video conferencing solutions are made by companies I think are any more trustworthy than Zoom at this point. Plus Google and others ran a focused assassination campaign against Zoom at the start of the pandemic to claw some of their market share.

My team uses Slack for text and voice chat (huddles) and Jitsi Meet for free, in-browser video chat without signup required.

Re: Slack is down for some users

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Post by btown »

swyx wrote: post #41
rythmshifter03 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't encourage the use of Zoom, they already have enough market share they don't deserve after lying through their teeth to the public on multiple occasions.

what do you mean lying through their teeth? citation needed.

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2020/11/ftc-r...

> In its complaint, the FTC alleged that, since at least 2016, Zoom misled users by touting that it offered “end-to-end, 256-bit encryption” to secure users’ communications, when in fact it provided a lower level of security... In reality, the FTC alleges, Zoom maintained the cryptographic keys that could allow Zoom to access the content of its customers’ meetings, and secured its Zoom Meetings, in part, with a lower level of encryption than promised.

See also: https://www.tomsguide.com/news/zoom-security-privacy-woes

Re: Slack is down for some users

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Post by abletonlive »

nate wrote: post #15

One fun thing we discovered an outage or two ago: Zoom, which is likely already on your computer too, has a very Slack-like Chat feature. Open up the Zoom app, then click the Chat icon in the top header. You probably missed it this entire time. You can make rooms, DMs, animated gifs, the works :)

>Open up the Zoom app

no thanks. I would never install zoom on any of my computers voluntarily.

Re: Slack is down for some users

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Post by MattRix »

bitexploder wrote: post #31
rythmshifter03 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don't encourage the use of Zoom, they already have enough market share they don't deserve after lying through their teeth to the public on multiple occasions.

What alternatives do you recommend? As far as I can tell none of the major video conferencing solutions are made by companies I think are any more trustworthy than Zoom at this point. Plus Google and others ran a focused assassination campaign against Zoom at the start of the pandemic to claw some of their market share.

I know it’s not seen as a professional service, but Discord has great quality video chat (better than Zoom, for example). I don’t know if its privacy/security would hold up for larger companies but we use it in my tiny company with no issues at all.

Re: Slack is down for some users

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Post by aftbit »

anderspitman wrote: post #36

The cool thing about Slack (and Discord for that matter) is that it's essentially federated on a technical level. SlackHQ controls all the instances, but the UX is very achievable by an open source alternative. I'm bullish on federated chat in the next few years. It would be awesome to have essentially the same experience as using Slack, but also a server running on our lab's hardware that we can reboot/debug ourselv…

Element/Matrix is getting pretty close, and is federated at the protocol level.

Re: Slack is down for some users

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Post by cguess »

anderspitman wrote: post #42
whalesalad wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://mattermost.com

I'm pretty familiar with the various alternatives. Mattermost isn't federated, right? Anything without a strong inter-instance collaboration story can't replicate the experience of Slack/Discord.

Mattermost is not federated.
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