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Hyperloop lays off half of its employees as it pivots away from passenger travel

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Re: Hyperloop lays off half of its employees as it pivots away from passenger travel

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t think businesses care about speed but rather stability and throughput. If the vaccuum is broken how long does it take to get it fixed, the tube emptied of ”pods”, and so on.

Passengers care about speed.

> pivot from passenger transport to freight

This isn't about passenger transport anymore

Re: Hyperloop lays off half of its employees as it pivots away from passenger travel

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> The company is now "changing direction" due to ... and "all the changes due to Covid"

It is true that train ridership is still way down... maybe 25% of pre-Covid levels. Although they'll probably return before HyperLoop is ready.

Re: Hyperloop lays off half of its employees as it pivots away from passenger travel

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I still don't understand why there is any interest in this concept, either for freight or passenger transport, over a regular train.

Because airplanes are slow. In a vacuum (or in space!) you can go a lot faster without using a lot of energy. NYC to London in 2 hours including stops (Note that this assumes you cross from Alaska to Russia if you can cross the Atlantic instead it would be faster).

The expense is what kills it. The other problems are solvable with money, but there is no way getting around all the material needed to build it.

Re: Hyperloop lays off half of its employees as it pivots away from passenger travel

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the current passenger rail “system” in the US is horrendous.

I don't think you're necessarily wrong, but how does putting a train in a vacuum tube solve the problems we currently have with passenger rail?

The limit on speed is air resistance.

Re: Hyperloop lays off half of its employees as it pivots away from passenger travel

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I find it quite surprising that they only fired half and not all of them. How can this conceptual vacuum tube pod system that has been shown to be incredibly inefficient and prohibitively expensive still have some kind of business model? To be honest I thought this whole idea got scrapped 5+ years ago.

this idea will one day return, it’s never gone for good. just delayed

Re: Hyperloop lays off half of its employees as it pivots away from passenger travel

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There are a lot of reasons standard rail in the US is cargo centric. Profit and a much easier customer service case are big ones. Also, sending cargo in a new transportation system is much easier and less lawsuit prone than people. An old story in the US since the post office basically made airplane travel viable via postal contracts.

Glossing over the fact that almost all the railways in the US are privately owned by cargo companies which prioritize their cargo over transport. Huge reason Amtrak struggles so much

Yeah, but there is also a reason that privately owned companies have no interest in passenger rail travel.

Re: Hyperloop lays off half of its employees as it pivots away from passenger travel

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I still don't understand why there is any interest in this concept, either for freight or passenger transport, over a regular train.

Why do articles about fusion power keep hitting HN over regular nuclear power?

Fusion has no waste products except ordinary elements, low on the periodic table. It's an entirely different beast. You could theoretically have a little Tony Stark reactor powering your home, safely.

Re: Hyperloop lays off half of its employees as it pivots away from passenger travel

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the current passenger rail “system” in the US is horrendous.

So.. maglev?

Not really helpful. It can go slightly faster, but wind resistance is a problem you can't get around.

Re: Hyperloop lays off half of its employees as it pivots away from passenger travel

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Vastly higher speeds is the reason it would be valuable if it can be made economically feasible.

It can't be made feasible from an engineering POV, not just economically. It's virtually impossible to maintain a relevant vacuum in hundreds of kilometers of tunnel. The temperature stresses alone would cause leaks unless using some very special materials (if any exist).

We can do it in the ISS. Not an easy problem, but it is a solvable problem. The problem is all the solutions will cost a ton of money.
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