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Official Response: Request to Freeze Canadian Edge Users’ Accounts

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Re: Official Response: Request to Freeze Canadian Edge Users’ Accounts

#51

What a childish response and a great way to invite future regulation. I’m not an Edge customer but if I was I wouldn’t be anymore. Why would I entrust my money with a company that ignores the law and responds in memes?

You would rather store your money with an institution that would freely comply with a request to have your assets frozen without due process? To each their own, I guess.

Re: Official Response: Request to Freeze Canadian Edge Users’ Accounts

#52

I’m very very anti “freedom convoy” but even I thinks seizing assets and freezing accounts is a bridge too far

What is the given rationale behind it? I didn't really follow the news on this very closely as it's very far removed from my part of the world, but can't they just walk up to the protestors and say "knock it off mate, or we'll arrest ya"?

Re: Official Response: Request to Freeze Canadian Edge Users’ Accounts

#53

When this protest started, people were complaining that the government was approaching the protest with relative tolerance compared to things like pipeline protests. Well, now protestors are being arrested and their accounts being frozen. They're no longer being treated nicely compared to environmental protestors. While I don't agree with their stance, I do think that "we should not have a vaccine mandate" is a valid…

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Re: Official Response: Request to Freeze Canadian Edge Users’ Accounts

#55

I’m very very anti “freedom convoy” but even I thinks seizing assets and freezing accounts is a bridge too far

What is the given rationale behind it? I didn't really follow the news on this very closely as it's very far removed from my part of the world, but can't they just walk up to the protestors and say "knock it off mate, or we'll arrest ya"?

No a clue, honestly. They didn’t need to seize assets or declare an emergency to send in armed forces to remove pipeline protesters last year, so it’s confusing why they’ve been treating this with such theatrics.

Re: Official Response: Request to Freeze Canadian Edge Users’ Accounts

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

People that argue this seem unaware of how dreadful freezing assets can be. 30 days without funds means you can't pay any debt, can't pay for food, can't use transportation, etc. I don't believe "The goal is to prevent use of assets right now to finance blockades," it's clearly an intimidation tactic against "undesirables."

I do think that is the goal. These are protestors with heavy, portable living quarters, after all; if you can't move them, you've got to cut off the money they use to live. If governments don't come down hard on using heavy vehicles for blockades, and don't do what they can to stop that being a financially supportable method of protest, it will be repeated everywhere, like the Gilets Jaunes model of protest. But ulti…

>Why not make the protests less liveable?

Protesting during multiple weeks in winter is already unliveable. I live in Canada and would probably not do that unless the issue is life-or-death. Using extra-judicial means to quell opponents is not what our government should be doing, be it by freezing assets, preventing exchange of goods or other. One of the basis of modern democracy is due process and executive/legislative separation.

Re: Official Response: Request to Freeze Canadian Edge Users’ Accounts

#57

What a childish response and a great way to invite future regulation. I’m not an Edge customer but if I was I wouldn’t be anymore. Why would I entrust my money with a company that ignores the law and responds in memes?

I envy you that you aren't aware of the intimate relationship between crypto and memes. Cryptobros talk in memes. They love this.

Thumbing your nose to the legacy governments and establishment is de rigueur.

Re: Official Response: Request to Freeze Canadian Edge Users’ Accounts

#59

When this protest started, people were complaining that the government was approaching the protest with relative tolerance compared to things like pipeline protests. Well, now protestors are being arrested and their accounts being frozen. They're no longer being treated nicely compared to environmental protestors. While I don't agree with their stance, I do think that "we should not have a vaccine mandate" is a valid…

> now protestors are being arrested Environmental protesters are FREQUENTLY arrested, so if you’re upset about these arrests at least have the decency to also be upset about these ones last year: https://thenarwhal.ca/rcmp-arrests-wetsuweten-media-photos/

I am not upset about the arrest of any protester if their protest escalates into significant economic damage or other types of harm. That's when it graduates from protest to terrorism. But they should be swiftly tried with a specific crime in a court of law. That's due process and liberal democracy working as it should.

Freezing assets without due process is a new thing which should be resisted as it's tyrannical and unchecked. Not good.

Re: Official Response: Request to Freeze Canadian Edge Users’ Accounts

#60
Serious question: how does content get flagged in HN?

I'm assuming it's a case of "if enough users flag a topic", but is there a moderator involved at all?

Can a topic get 'unflagged' once flagged?

Could this system be abused by planted shills who coordinate 'flagging' when something is posted that is detrimental to a company?

I read the post, I see people's point here that responding with a meme is perhaps not appropriate for some audiences on a serious matter, but I personally didn't find it in bad taste, and would never consider this as grounds for 'flagging'.

Especially since 'flagging' in this particular case effectively means "censorship" / "shadowbanning" (in that it causes the topic to be removed from the list of topics, but does not kill the link itself).

Reminds me of that quote: "The best way to keep people obedient is to severely limit the scope of conversation, but allow very vivid conversation within that scope"

Seems like the few people who spotted this topic before it was removed from the list are allowed to discuss this topic as passionately as they like, while the moderator sleeps quietly at night knowing nobody will ever discover this passionate conversation.

What a weird world we live in.

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