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Re: Gmail – A New Integrated Layout

#52

Is there any way to alleviate the problem of these forced UX transitions? At the time, Gmail was pretty revolutionary for what it offered (a large, free email account), but as the cost of compute and storage has declined, its pretty cheap to store 10GB-15GB of email in an mbox file or similar data store, fronted with JMAP [1], which any client or web front end that supports it could talk to. Is asking for long term s…

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Re: Gmail – A New Integrated Layout

#53
post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Hangouts, Google Allo, &c. The list goes on.

Google Duo, Google Messenger, Google Wave, Google Answers

Google Duo is still alive.

Google Messenger got renamed to Android Messages, so less a death, more a cosmetic surgery?

Re: Gmail – A New Integrated Layout

#54

Is there any way to alleviate the problem of these forced UX transitions? At the time, Gmail was pretty revolutionary for what it offered (a large, free email account), but as the cost of compute and storage has declined, its pretty cheap to store 10GB-15GB of email in an mbox file or similar data store, fronted with JMAP [1], which any client or web front end that supports it could talk to. Is asking for long term s…

Use a desktop app? Outlook and to a slightly lesser extent Apple mail are much evolved but still familiar in design to ten or even 20 years ago.

Re: Gmail – A New Integrated Layout

#55

> Important: To use the new view, you must turn on Chat in Gmail and set Chat to the left hand panel. Learn how to turn on Chat in Gmail. "c'mon, use our messaging products again"

I guess its good to know how to avoid getting pulled into yet another UI refresh that I do not want. Google's new chat system doesn't appeal to me even a little bit.

Re: Gmail – A New Integrated Layout

#56
You know what would be an awesome user setting?

-Under no circumstances do I want your update unless it's to circumvent a genuine security threat or addresses a genuine pain point that real users complain about on HN, Reddit or, if it exists, your user forums

Re: Gmail – A New Integrated Layout

#57
I ditched (all of) Google 2 weeks ago after 15+ years of having an account. I don't miss it. One of the last major annoyances before I escaped was the ever-decreasing amount of screen-real-estate that seemed to be available to actually use: this new eye-candy version seems to confirm that continuing trend, so I'm happy to be out of it.

Re: Gmail – A New Integrated Layout

#58
post #31

Still can't get over how they threw away Inbox[1]. That should have been the new default for everybody, not thrown away. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inbox_by_Gmail

I know! Inbox was by far the best productivity software I've ever used. I was an eng manager during the time it was available, which meant I basically lived in email. I feel like I was 2x as productive because of that one tool.

It was too beautiful for this world.

Re: Gmail – A New Integrated Layout

#59

Is there any way to alleviate the problem of these forced UX transitions? At the time, Gmail was pretty revolutionary for what it offered (a large, free email account), but as the cost of compute and storage has declined, its pretty cheap to store 10GB-15GB of email in an mbox file or similar data store, fronted with JMAP [1], which any client or web front end that supports it could talk to. Is asking for long term s…

Use a desktop app? Outlook and to a slightly lesser extent Apple mail are much evolved but still familiar in design to ten or even 20 years ago.

Also Thunderbird. Free and works on Mac, Windows, Linux, FreeBSD.

Re: Gmail – A New Integrated Layout

#60
So, what is the fundamental difference for me as a user between google chat's integration into gmail, and google talk's integration into gmail that they added back in 2006 and removed 7 years later? Both were chat features that allowed me to talk with my contacts.

https://techcrunch.com/2006/02/07/screen-shots-of-gmail-chat...

It seems google has gone full circle and is building things they've already built and killed once before. I don't particularly mind, I'm just not going to rely on any of this stuff because in a few years they will kill it and replace it by something else.

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