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Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Post by klipt »

7thaccount wrote: post #4
xqcgrek2 wrote: post #2

Cannabis seems like it isn't all its hyped up to be -- and the $MJ cannabis ETF is down 70% since its 2019 peak.

PBS Nova did a great documentary on Medical Cannabis recently. The researcher they interviewed said that "people seem to think it's either the greatest thing in the universe that cures all ailments or it's the devil's grass. The truth is probably somewhere in the middle". It can do great things like alleviate seizures in children, but they showed it has issues as well. One example was that those who smoke small amoun…

> eventually become desensitized and have to increase their dosage

What's interesting is this applies to many FDA approved drugs too. The body has amazing homeostasis ability, which unfortunately leads to "rebound" effects from many drugs, e.g. when the PPI (heartburn drug) wears off, you might have even more heartburn because your body saw an unusually low acid level in your stomach and declared an emergency increase in acid production.

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Post by JDEW »

suifbwish wrote: post #11
xqcgrek2 wrote: post #2

Cannabis seems like it isn't all its hyped up to be -- and the $MJ cannabis ETF is down 70% since its 2019 peak.

I agree. I was kind of shocked at the number of people I knew who thought it was bad before suddenly decided it wasn’t anymore and started consuming it after it was legalized in the states I frequent. Just because something is legal does not make it a good idea to do; by that token just because something is illegal does not necessarily make it bad to do (other than legal problems that is). I think the important thing…

You make a lot of valid points but this sentence:

> I say legalize all the “drugs” and let people decide for themselves whether or not to be morons.

Is probably a bit too spicy. You say the government robs us of agency but you know what else does? Addiction. It’s not bad for a government to put regulations in place for dangerous substances. I do, however, agree with the subtext that it should be _decriminalized_.

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Post by code_duck »

EdwardDiego wrote: post #15
Terry_Roll wrote: post #5

So anyone who knows someone who has "pulled a whitey" when smoking weed has experienced a sudden release of glutathione https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glutathione#Cosmetics So not surprised with this news considering the role it plays in cancer prevention initially and then protects the cancer cells once they get established.

What's a whitey?

I was involved in cannabis culture professionally for over 15 years, as a glassblower, and smoked longer than that, and I’ve never heard of this.

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Post by bryans »

monetus wrote: post #50
bryans wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29768651/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/09/20/indian...

I'm not going to download and read the pdf until later, but with three cases only reviewed by the researchers and not actively monitored by them (it seems), I'm curious how they could be at all certain CHS was caused by cannabis. A lot of receptors in the stomach, so it could make sense. Three cases studied after the fact though, I was hoping for something more thorough. The USA today article is reprehensible.

As a chronic sufferer of CHS, I'd be happy to tell you all about it if you're genuinely curious. But there really hasn't been a question of the connection between cannabis and cyclical vomiting since the 2004 study[1] led to a fury of other research[2].

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1774264/

[2] https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=cannabinoid+hyperemesis...

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Post by refurb »

WalterGR wrote: post #46
refurb wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is about as worrisome as the crunchy liberals in Sonoma who make their children wear healing crystals.

What are the comparative lifetime risks of being exposed to healing crystals vs. not getting the vaccine?

When you don’t give your child access to western medicine but instead to crystals, the risk is pretty fuxking high.

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Post by Moto7451 »

asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #32
jjtheblunt wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do they only offer it to teens (in the US , from what I've seen)?

You can get it up 'til you're 45 (after that it's not approved), but you have to ask. My understanding is most adults have already been infected, so it is not considered very important to vaccinate them. If you haven't had any or many sexual partners, I reckon it could make sense to get it even if you're not a teen any more. On the other hand, if you've been with more than a handful of people, you've probably already…

Until they opened it up to 45 year olds I was always a year or two too old (or just male when it was approved only for females). I’m to get my third dose in a few weeks. I’m married but it just makes sense to guard against preventable illness. I’ve only been with a few partners total so it’s likely that I’m gaining some level of protection from getting a head and neck cancer.

There are some reports of gaining some immune response to HPV strains not targeted directly by Gardasil 9. This makes sense since there are hundreds of strains and while it may not have a practical affect on me, it’s a nice feeling to know that I’m gaining some protection.

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Post by robbiep »

stickfigure wrote: post #47
rdevsrex wrote: post #42

So, if HPV is a sexually transmitted disease, and you are in a monogamous relationship, and you and your partner don't have it, what's to worry about here?

How do you know? HPV is transmitted by skin to skin contact. Have you ever had a wart on your skin, anywhere? HPV is incredibly common, contagious, and causes no noticeable effects in the overwhelming majority of cases. If you've had sex with more than one person, or the person you've had sex with has had sex with more than one, you've probably been exposed to one or more strains.

You’re making two points there. The response to the first is that the vast majority of cancer causing strains of HPV produce no noticeable warts. The second is yep, it’s common as hell - at least in older generations, post widespread availability of gardisil

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Post by Moto7451 »

refurb wrote: post #39
asdfasgasdgasdg wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gardasil 9 hits enough of the HPV variants that the rate of cancer-causing HPV infections has fallen by 90% in the US. And that's with the fraction of folks who are anti-vaxxers taken into account. This is one of those diseases where the means to prevent being infected is already in hand.

Do you have a source for the 90% reduction? It can only be given to teens so most people haven’t gotten Gardisil and if you already have HPV (most do) it doesn’t make it go away.

https://www.cancer.gov/about-cancer/causes-prevention/risk/i...

Under the “Preventing HPV” section.

You can also be vaccinated as an adult. I’m half way through my series.

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Post by friedturkey »

rdevsrex wrote: post #42

So, if HPV is a sexually transmitted disease, and you are in a monogamous relationship, and you and your partner don't have it, what's to worry about here?

Apparently about 80% of sexually active people have some form of HPV.

Even when people think they don't have it, it's quite probable they do. Statistically speaking, more than a couple people in these comments have some form of it.

Re: Marijuana accelerates growth of HPV-related head and neck cancer (2020)

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Post by rootlocus »

WalterGR wrote: post #46
refurb wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is about as worrisome as the crunchy liberals in Sonoma who make their children wear healing crystals.

What are the comparative lifetime risks of being exposed to healing crystals vs. not getting the vaccine?

Kids who get healing crystals instead of vaccines, also don't get the vaccine?
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