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Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

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Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

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Post by stevofolife »

johndfsgdgdfg wrote: post #31

FB deservedly gets a lot of criticism. I personally feel Twitter doesn't get its fair share of blame. IME Twitter is the most toxic social media platform out there. Twitter deserves a fair share of blame for the divisive political culture we live in right now. I hope these companies go bankrupt and it'd be nothing but a blessing for humanity.

But how can you blame Twitter for the divisive political culture when “we” are the ones generating the content?

I’m not sure if I understand how Twitter is systematically dividing the culture.

I really don’t think Twitter is the root cause of this. But I may be wrong.

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

#52

Post by lotsofpulp »

oh_sigh wrote: post #15
mrweasel wrote: post #5

Is there some reason articles like this doesn't include profits? Revenue is specified along with a number of other key metrics, but not profit. The overall conclusion seems to be the same as with Meta last week: It's going well, but not as well as predicted. The slower than expected growth is only a problem, because the stock market likes predictability and will punish any company unable to correctly foresee the futu…

Profit isn't very meaningful without a lot of context. A growing business could plow all of their would-be profits back into growing their business, making it look like they are losing money. Or a failing business could cannibalize itself to get a couple quarters of profits at the cost of destroying its long term prospects for success. Revenue is a much more concrete figure that sort of tells its own story, unlike pr…

> Revenue is a much more concrete figure that sort of tells its own story, unlike profit.

No single number tells any story on its own. You can have $1T revenue tomorrow. Just sell $10 bills for $1.

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

#53

Post by danielvaughn »

johndfsgdgdfg wrote: post #31

FB deservedly gets a lot of criticism. I personally feel Twitter doesn't get its fair share of blame. IME Twitter is the most toxic social media platform out there. Twitter deserves a fair share of blame for the divisive political culture we live in right now. I hope these companies go bankrupt and it'd be nothing but a blessing for humanity.

It really is absurd. I don't get why the focus is all on FB. I honestly only keep FB around because my family is on it, and sometimes I use FB messenger with my friends. It has zero impact on my life.

On the other hand, a single glance into twitter can lead to 2-3 hours of a sustained state of mild rage, and you just feel bad when you finally exit the app.

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

#54

Post by zeepzeep »

johndfsgdgdfg wrote: post #31

FB deservedly gets a lot of criticism. I personally feel Twitter doesn't get its fair share of blame. IME Twitter is the most toxic social media platform out there. Twitter deserves a fair share of blame for the divisive political culture we live in right now. I hope these companies go bankrupt and it'd be nothing but a blessing for humanity.

idk, it's pretty civil in my bubble, though obviously there is some drama every now and then like now (Jonathan Scott ^^)

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

#55

Post by bobiny »

johndfsgdgdfg wrote: post #31

FB deservedly gets a lot of criticism. I personally feel Twitter doesn't get its fair share of blame. IME Twitter is the most toxic social media platform out there. Twitter deserves a fair share of blame for the divisive political culture we live in right now. I hope these companies go bankrupt and it'd be nothing but a blessing for humanity.

It’s easy to mute accounts you don’t want to see on Twitter, even ones shown as ads.

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

#57

Post by umeshunni »

danielvaughn wrote: post #53
johndfsgdgdfg wrote: post #31

FB deservedly gets a lot of criticism. I personally feel Twitter doesn't get its fair share of blame. IME Twitter is the most toxic social media platform out there. Twitter deserves a fair share of blame for the divisive political culture we live in right now. I hope these companies go bankrupt and it'd be nothing but a blessing for humanity.

It really is absurd. I don't get why the focus is all on FB. I honestly only keep FB around because my family is on it, and sometimes I use FB messenger with my friends. It has zero impact on my life. On the other hand, a single glance into twitter can lead to 2-3 hours of a sustained state of mild rage, and you just feel bad when you finally exit the app.

The focus is on FB because they are the ones taking ad revenue away from news publishers and traditional media. That gives the media more incentive to publish negative articles about them.

When in doubt, follow the money.

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

#59

Post by zeepzeep »

stevofolife wrote: post #51
johndfsgdgdfg wrote: post #31

FB deservedly gets a lot of criticism. I personally feel Twitter doesn't get its fair share of blame. IME Twitter is the most toxic social media platform out there. Twitter deserves a fair share of blame for the divisive political culture we live in right now. I hope these companies go bankrupt and it'd be nothing but a blessing for humanity.

But how can you blame Twitter for the divisive political culture when “we” are the ones generating the content? I’m not sure if I understand how Twitter is systematically dividing the culture. I really don’t think Twitter is the root cause of this. But I may be wrong.

The problem is that these sites have optimized their algorithms to show you content which provoke a reaction, they don't care if positive or toxic. At least that's what FB does, dunno about Twitter tbh.

Re: Twitter misses ad revenue and user growth estimates

#60

Post by BitwiseFool »

DixieDev wrote: post #50
conradfr wrote: post #24

Like Instagram and others they have gotten quite hostile to visitors without an account. I guess tracking and monetizing your users earns a lot more than displaying ads for everyone.

Yeah, if you click too many links without an account it'll bring up a sign-up pop-up that takes you to the previous page when you close it. You can get around it by opening the link in a new tab, or save yourself constant hassle by disabling cookies on twitter altogether. While we're here, take another pro-tip: Set yourself up with an RSS/Atom reader and "Follow" accounts you are interested in through Nitter. No acco…

Twitter is also hellbent on associating accounts with phone numbers. This is a dealbreaker for me. I will look into Nitter.
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