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Ask HN: What Has Happened to Twitter?

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Re: Ask HN: What Has Happened to Twitter?

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> I thought courts already decided in the US that the public has a right to access official government communications on social media [citation needed] Twitter is kind of disintegrating, though. They've hit a growth plateau, the users are really fractious, management doesn't understand what they want out of it, and it's the venue for social strife.

It's truly amazing how despite all this twitter is as successful as it is. Something about _very important people_ sharing their thoughts in 140/280 characters really is the addictive nicotine of the human attention span.

It's not the fact that you can read what the important people are posting. It's the lottery-like hope that they might read your reply.

Re: Ask HN: What Has Happened to Twitter?

#53

I am not sure what happend to twitter. However if you just want to browser twitter you can use a nitter instance (there are quite a few public instances). https://github.com/zedeus/nitter I use browser plugin that redirects me to nitter when clicking a twitter link. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/nitter-redirect/mo...

Been using this as for more than year. Super impressed and highly recommend.

On rare occasions there's an issue with finding online instances where you reach deadlinks but that's so rare and otherwise it's all perfect.

Re: Ask HN: What Has Happened to Twitter?

#54
post #15

I think this is one reason why "web3", social media with a decentralized storage layer, could become a thing. As a user, when I tweet something, I do want the whole world to be able to read it. Without logging in. Ideally via the interface of their choice. Orbis is a proof of concept: https://orbis.club/ A Twitter clone that stores the tweets on Arweave.

This vision doesn't require blockchain whatsoever.

Mastodon[0] is a successful decentralized social media without the use of blockchain. Because of federation, users can like and reply to posts from other instances, and other people will be able to see it.

I can even follow a PeerTube channel and have recent videos show up in my feed, because of the ActivityPub federation protocol (a W3C standard).

Best of all, it doesn't require the linking of a crypto wallet and the payment of cryptocurrency to interact with people.

[0] https://joinmastodon.org/

Re: Ask HN: What Has Happened to Twitter?

#55

There are two reasonable ways of using twitter 1) on a third party client like Tweetbot which just shows exactly the tweets of those you follow, in order, and nothing else. Nothing promoted, no ads, no trending keywords 2) Not at all I have no idea why anyone would want to use the official Twitter app or the twitter dot com web site. Once you have used a third party client (which behaves like the original Twitter!) y…

I’m maybe the only HN person that prefers the algorithmically sorted Twitter feed on the official site? I really don’t want to see every post by everyone I follow. I prefer to just see the good stuff and get the hell out. Social media is a horrendous time sink. In my opinion everyone should be doing all they can to spend less time on there. What worked for me was to move all the time wasting apps off my phone’s Home…

I like it and even the promoted content is quite often relevant (unlike facebook where I had literally 0% ads about anything I cared about in the decade+ I was on it; they can have to best AI people on earth, on paper, but they really seem to know nothing at all about me even though they know everything about me so i'm not sure what those people are doing /rant). I often see interesting stuff, but I do curate who I follow (more and more); I am interested in retro computers, startups and programming language theory/formal verification (including the math). I hardly get stuff that is not relevant to those things. During Covid people talked about the politics (polarised vaxxer/anti vaxxer shouting matches from generally very, very smart people) which I ignored and even unfollowed some who just went to far, but generally it's good content. I really hate the format it has; I wish it would auto-aggregate threads, but I know why it is the way it is and changing it would probably hurt it.

What does happen to every platform including twitter (and those are the people I unfollow the most) is that the 'internet marketing' people take over and use every opportunity to push in some affiliate link or product. Sometimes these products are good and welcome, but mostly they are just uninspired rehashes of other get-rich-quick drivel.

Re: Ask HN: What Has Happened to Twitter?

#56
post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's truly amazing how despite all this twitter is as successful as it is. Something about _very important people_ sharing their thoughts in 140/280 characters really is the addictive nicotine of the human attention span.

It's not the fact that you can read what the important people are posting. It's the lottery-like hope that they might read your reply.

> might read your reply

Or better reply

Re: Ask HN: What Has Happened to Twitter?

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post #45
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mastodon ( https://joinmastodon.org ) and the rest of the fediverse ( https://www.fediverse.to ) are well established if you're looking for a good alternative to Twitter.

With Mastodon, you are still at the mercy of whoever runs the instance you use. I expect most Mastodon instances will be shorter lived than Twitter. So changing from Twitter to Mastodon seems not like a good deal if I want my posts and the comments and likes I get to stay around.

You can run your own instance. It's probably not easy to do with Mastodon, but there's other server software aiming to be lightweight and easy to set up. Though I guess it will probably not be the normal way to use the fediverse in the near future.

Re: Ask HN: What Has Happened to Twitter?

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post #45
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mastodon ( https://joinmastodon.org ) and the rest of the fediverse ( https://www.fediverse.to ) are well established if you're looking for a good alternative to Twitter.

With Mastodon, you are still at the mercy of whoever runs the instance you use. I expect most Mastodon instances will be shorter lived than Twitter. So changing from Twitter to Mastodon seems not like a good deal if I want my posts and the comments and likes I get to stay around.

For that reason, I'd prefer an architecture, where the users don't belong to individual servers, but a transparent fediverse, where a few thousand servers disappearing won't even get noticed.

It would be important to ensure the integrity of the software running on such servers, though, perhaps via regular check of the binaries also at runtime.

Re: Ask HN: What Has Happened to Twitter?

#59

Twitter...official government communications? You would be better served accessing official government communications via .gov sites. This is their purpose. If you want official bot communications from troll farms, then Twitter is the best!

Right or wrong Twitter has censored at least one government official. It will happen again. The platform has no integrity.

I despise Donald Trump but I think this was a mistake. The failure of January 6 removed any short-term danger Trump presented, so there was no immediate need to ban the guy. At the same time, the use of a dodgy ban to censor an unpopular, failed public figure normalized the concept of private companies deplatforming people for political reasons--something they will use against the left more than the right, going forward--and also gave the world the sense of leftists and liberals (whom most of the country conflates) as cancelistas.

Social media is a huge liability for us on the left, as well as for society at large. Its structure and dynamics serve the far-right, who are far more adept at using it than anyone else, but it is associated with its public-facing apparent liberalism, which means that blowback against its failures and heavy-handed actions will diminish our reputation rather than the right's.

Re: Ask HN: What Has Happened to Twitter?

#60
post #54
post #15

I think this is one reason why "web3", social media with a decentralized storage layer, could become a thing. As a user, when I tweet something, I do want the whole world to be able to read it. Without logging in. Ideally via the interface of their choice. Orbis is a proof of concept: https://orbis.club/ A Twitter clone that stores the tweets on Arweave.

This vision doesn't require blockchain whatsoever. Mastodon[0] is a successful decentralized social media without the use of blockchain. Because of federation, users can like and reply to posts from other instances, and other people will be able to see it. I can even follow a PeerTube channel and have recent videos show up in my feed, because of the ActivityPub federation protocol (a W3C standard). Best of all, it do…

Using Mastodon just shifts the power from Twitter to whoever runs the Mastodon instance you use.

The Crypto wallet you use for Orbis can be a fresh, empty wallet. No need to put any cryptocurrency in it.

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