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Does this apply to XBox and PlayStation?
Their entire model is based on selling hardware near at-cost and making up the margins in software cuts (and accessories).
If you can side-load any game you want now you are just buying a privately subsidized PC.
Great news. Apple has turned the magic of software development from “how cool would this be?” to “how cool would Apple be with this?” That’s an environment of software suppression instead of free innovation, and Apple has felt little pressure to change. For anyone concerned about the security and privacy implications, don’t fall for the misconceptions perpetuated by Apple: non-App Store apps will still be sandboxed (…
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Maybe Apple will give developers the ability to determine whether the app was installed from Apple or some other source.
Surprised it took this long. If they would have taken a more reasonable 5-10% of developer earnings they’d still collect billions upon billions in rent while not angering millions of developers and lawmakers writing this legislation. Or at least charge a tiered annual publication fee plus payment processing fees. But greed got the best of them. Their fees are akin to a shopping mall owner taking 30% of store revenues…
>Oh and by the way, there’s no other malls in town to move your business to. I mean, given that this bill is targeting two companies, I'm not sure your analogy holds. There clearly is another mall you could move to. You just wouldn't get the patrons at the other mall. And they charge the same and always have. And, your business doesn't even have to be located in the mall if you think the fees are unreasonable. You ju…
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Apple also perfectly demonstrated even more worrisome security issues https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30192743
Would you trust Apple to patch security fixes and distribute it as soon as they know or a random third party developer?
Great news. Apple has turned the magic of software development from “how cool would this be?” to “how cool would Apple be with this?” That’s an environment of software suppression instead of free innovation, and Apple has felt little pressure to change. For anyone concerned about the security and privacy implications, don’t fall for the misconceptions perpetuated by Apple: non-App Store apps will still be sandboxed (…
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The point about sandboxing is relevant because many people conflate sandboxing protections with the protections offered by App Review, and thus are afraid that non-App Store apps will be able to install viruses or brick their devices - which isn't the case.
Lastly, the automated malware screening that’s part of the App Review process can be offered separately, thus the risk of "catching malware” from non-App Store apps will be the same as with App Store apps.
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I tend to side with the tech companies (Apple in particular) due to the security issues and review process. It's not perfect and the cut seems excessive IMO, but there is value there that can't be dismissed outright. It'll be interesting to see how Apple and Google handle this. Maybe they'll allow side-loading with big, scary language? Or perhaps a cheaper or even free tier for developers to allow apps on their respe…
Android already has side loading, and Epic tried and failed to get a third party store going. I highly doubt this bill will do anything unless it mandates that Google can't mandate Google Play Store as a condition of receiving development support.
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Those aren't general-purpose devices. You can't even get official SDKs unless you're a game studio.
Is that fair? Why can't you develop software for the hardware you purchased? How is that different from the argument against Apple's App Store? > Those aren't general-purpose devices So if Apple sold an "iPad Gaming Edition" then none of this would matter?
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- you can’t access the unique identifier on iPhones as an app developer. Apple blocked that years ago. - if you have found away to get around iOS’s sandboxing, you could collect a bug bounty - ad blocking doesn’t work well or at all for first party ads like FB, Reddit and Twitter use.
> - you can’t access the unique identifier on iPhones as an app developer. Apple blocked that years ago. There's an advertising id built-in into the device... Just the thought of that on a browser would make everybody scream. > - if you have found away to get around iOS’s ssndboxing, you could collect a bug bounty https://developers.facebook.com/docs/marketing-api/conversio... > - ad blocking doesn’t work well or at…
As far as FB cross app tracking, there is another article on HN where FB attributed $10B worth of revenue loss to Apple’s new opt in tracking prompt.
It’s not about obstructing, a “native ad” looks just like any other post and is integrated into the feed. It would take some serious AI to block that.
I personally can’t wait for students to be forced to install apps from third party stores that collect all their information because their schools have a contract with the developers and have made it mandatory. Same will be true of employees and their employers.
Same is true of employers and their employees.
So what you are talking about is in fact already there, and Apple is fine with it and facilitates it.