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Facebook loses users for the first time

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Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by ramoz »

ProAm wrote: post #19
Victerius wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I predict the Metaverse will fail, and fail early. It will be Google Plus, but worse. No one I personally know cares about Metaverse, including young people and Facebook users.

The 'metaverse' in terms that there will absolutely be a VR cyber/world/land/facebook/sims2/second life experience. Will it be what FB wants it to be (they want to cash in), probably not but this is 100% coming. Looks at every immersive games (WOW, Second Life, etc...) in the past, even if its just that it will be hugely lucrative and successful.

Does Facebook really have the infrastructure in place to host the metaverse? Are they buying up the best gaming firms, have extensive enterprise architecture experience?

Look at Microsoft. My bet is on big enterprise/cloud tech + video game companies.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by hi5eyes »

cube00 wrote: post #30
monkeybutton wrote: post #2

Its already frustrating enough having to use Facebook just to look up a restaurant's information, the set times for a concert, or whatever about a local business or event. If all that stuff starts to disappear behind a meta-verse wall, I might just leap off the nearest bridge instead.

Their mobile site forces you to login to even view things anymore.

mbasic.facebook.com works fine

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by ikt »

studmuffin650 wrote: post #17
Victerius wrote: post #4

> Daily active users dropped from 1.93 billion to 1.92 billion, with the drop coming from Africa and Latin America.

I think they only lost a half million users (which wouldn't even show up as a blib on that number)

This may be like the first time McDonalds posted a loss:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/2688665.stm

I still remember it and the changes that came after it, the McDonalds of today is nothing like the McDonalds of 2003.

We'll see what Facebook does, I assume buy out Snapchat or Tiktok or some other product where the kids hang out.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by ethbr0 »

systemvoltage wrote: post #20
dkackman11 wrote: post #5

This is good news. Facebook has proven itself to be a negative influence on people and countries.

It is just me or there seems to be a strange lack of criticism about TikTok on the same or stricter level than FB. Especially that it is a Chinese company HQ’ed in Beijing. Neither do I ever see discussion about the asymmetry in China’s trade policies with regards to FB/Tiktok. Tiktok enjoys free market access (except India), whereas FB is banned in China just like many other US-based platforms. On the contrary, ther…

The problem with TikTok is that it's even more opaque than Facebook.

Content can be said to exist or not exist on Facebook, and that's usually it. Sure they monkey with the feed, but it's still essentially user-derived.

TikTok effectively exposes one interaction: get next.

What that returns is completely at the mercy of whatever TikTok decides it should be. They've optimized for virality. But it would be pretty easy to tweak that and optimize for something else.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by woodruffw »

shaunpud wrote: post #11
monkeybutton wrote: post #2

Its already frustrating enough having to use Facebook just to look up a restaurant's information, the set times for a concert, or whatever about a local business or event. If all that stuff starts to disappear behind a meta-verse wall, I might just leap off the nearest bridge instead.

It really gets me down when local/state emergency services etc. use it as their primary means of news/updates.

This has always irked me. Perhaps it's heavy handed, but I would love a law that (1) requires governments at all levels to use open-access websites (and radio, a local newspaper of record, &c.), and (2) requires services like Facebook to syndicate any news and updates.

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by GCA10 »

Peak coffee consumption (per capita/US): 1946

Peak cigarette consumption (per capita/US): 1963

Peak oil production (global): unknown, maybe 2020-2030

Peak Facebook: ??

That's an incomplete peer group, but I find it interesting that at some point, society does start to unplug from addictive substances. The tapering off is quite slow, though. Unclear whether heavy users cut back, or new generations just don't develop the habit as older ones die off

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by annadane »

lurker619 wrote: post #33
trident5000 wrote: post #9

Theres so many ads on instagram Im considering dumping it. Thats the only social platform I ever liked because I dont have to hear peoples opinions on things. But Im at a breaking point.

Exactly. The main feed doesn't hold any meaning for me now. I find I miss around 50% of my friend's posts and reels if I don't check their profile manually. I only use it for seeing and posting stories now. I'm sure stories would get similarly ad-clogged in 1-2 years as well. Just to clarify, I'm fine with seeing some ads in between chronological posts. But the feed is entirely ads after 5-6 posts. Hoping some brave…

Don't you love going to Instagram and having it refuse to show you pictures without logging in? I sure do

Re: Facebook loses users for the first time

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Post by jamal-kumar »

systemvoltage wrote: post #20
dkackman11 wrote: post #5

This is good news. Facebook has proven itself to be a negative influence on people and countries.

It is just me or there seems to be a strange lack of criticism about TikTok on the same or stricter level than FB. Especially that it is a Chinese company HQ’ed in Beijing. Neither do I ever see discussion about the asymmetry in China’s trade policies with regards to FB/Tiktok. Tiktok enjoys free market access (except India), whereas FB is banned in China just like many other US-based platforms. On the contrary, ther…

https://www.theverge.com/2021/11/12/22772157/tiktok-tics-sug...

I think researchers are starting to notice mass psychological phenomenon specific to the platform already, though maybe 'tiktok tics' just sounds nicer than any of the other social media networks and 'tics'

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