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Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

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Post by raxxorrax »

sennight wrote: post #17
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seems reasonable. YouTube is a platform for content creators with some skin in the game. New accounts producing viral livestreams are a hotbed for spam and scams, such as the ubiquitous free cryptocurrency livestream scams. Frankly, I’m glad to see they’re doing something about it.

What you are asking for is already widely available: network television. I don't see how it is a good thing that Google has adopted more and more of the negative aspects of the old system, but they certainly have been busy doing so for the last few years. You know a very good way to control what is and is not part of the public discourse? Allow only those with a lot to lose the privilege of speaking. Those creators w…

This really grind my gears too. You want carefully curated content? I like that too from time to time and it is more or less ubiquitously available. You don't have to destroy every platform that might diverge here.

Youtube is long gone from non-commercial use and for me the platform is a lot less interesting, although there still is good stuff on it. But so many people want to go back to church. Every measure is a punch in the wherever curiosity is situated in the body...

Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

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Post by marmarama »

tomschlick wrote: post #43
dukeofdoom wrote: post #34

I read a streamer from the Truck protest in Ottawa was getting hit by this. Hope Youtube doesn't become just another mouthpiece for only government approved narratives like TV.

> Hope Youtube doesn't become just another mouthpiece for only government approved narratives like TV. This is already the case. Things like the lab leak theory were getting people banned for months before it suddenly became ok to talk about once the mainstream news channels started talking about it. This is why the label "misinformation" is dangerous. Anything can be deemed misinformation depending on who the fact c…

In 2020, the lab leak theory was dangerous and unhelpful. The incumbent at the White House was easily swayed into acting rashly without thinking too hard, and the whole world was dependent on very limited supplies of PPE and biotech equipment that mostly came from China.

In 2022, the lab leak theory isn't so dangerous to talk about, and China is making waves about Taiwan.

It's all about the time and the place. Sometimes it's better to keep quiet for now. That's not a conspiracy, it's strategy.

Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

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Post by tzs »

33ultra wrote: post #46

From other [dupe] thread: I think the answer is still related to censorship. Streamers with lots of history also got throttled. So, ask yourself, why would YouTube need to throttle in the first place? Who is giving all these protest-streamers their first 300 viewers, making them rise in the live-streaming rankings and exposing millions to anti-mandate protests? I think YouTube is under attack. I think they learned fr…

OT: I'm curious why that is the thread that got marked [dupe]. That was the one that was posted first.

Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

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Post by tomschlick »

marmarama wrote: post #52
tomschlick wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Hope Youtube doesn't become just another mouthpiece for only government approved narratives like TV. This is already the case. Things like the lab leak theory were getting people banned for months before it suddenly became ok to talk about once the mainstream news channels started talking about it. This is why the label "misinformation" is dangerous. Anything can be deemed misinformation depending on who the fact c…

In 2020, the lab leak theory was dangerous and unhelpful. The incumbent at the White House was easily swayed into acting rashly without thinking too hard, and the whole world was dependent on very limited supplies of PPE and biotech equipment that mostly came from China. In 2022, the lab leak theory isn't so dangerous to talk about, and China is making waves about Taiwan. It's all about the time and the place. Someti…

Ah so lets suppress the truth when it's convenient and bring it back out when it's politically advantageous for your party. That doesn't seem dangerous to you? It's quite literally propaganda and the stuff that tin foil hat loonies have been warning about for years... If that's where we are at politically I guess they weren't so crazy after all.

Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

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Post by hnburnsy »

From Google support...

https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9228390

>Requirements To live stream on mobile, you’ll need: At least 50 subscribers. No live streaming restrictions within the last 90 days on your channel. To verify your channel. To enable live streaming. You may need to wait 24 hours before you can start your first live stream. An Android 5.0+ device.

>Why is my mobile live stream’s audience limited? To help aspiring creators while protecting the community, we've created safeguards to limit the spread of potentially harmful content.

Will they implement the same rate limiting for apps in the Play Store or sending emails from new Gmail accounts?

New support articles coming soon...

Why is my app's audience limited? Why is sending emails from Gmail limited? Why is sharing my Google Doc limited?

Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

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Post by 015a »

gowld wrote: post #47
015a wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My guess is far more benign: YouTube operates one of the world's largest CDNs. It takes time to saturate that CDN, but it's necessary in order to serve many of the largest content creators. If a small video, from a historically small content creator, gets too popular, too quickly, they likely, simply, aren't ready at an infrastructure level to serve the video. And, a moron of a product manager was responsible for try…

Why would you assume that the person who is paid to do this professionally has less of a clue than you who just... read a reddit comment

My default assumption when interfacing with anything created by YouTube is that the people working on it have, naturally, as much of a clue as anyone, but observing them act with wisdom on that clue is a rare event given the carbon monoxide leak which affects every floor of their headquarters. Except the one home to the team that designs the algorithm recommending pregnant Disney character kidnapping videos to children; the air on that floor is pristine, as their metrics are so high they shattered the ceiling to bring in some fresh air.

Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

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Post by zozbot234 »

tomschlick wrote: post #54
marmarama wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 2020, the lab leak theory was dangerous and unhelpful. The incumbent at the White House was easily swayed into acting rashly without thinking too hard, and the whole world was dependent on very limited supplies of PPE and biotech equipment that mostly came from China. In 2022, the lab leak theory isn't so dangerous to talk about, and China is making waves about Taiwan. It's all about the time and the place. Someti…

Ah so lets suppress the truth when it's convenient and bring it back out when it's politically advantageous for your party. That doesn't seem dangerous to you? It's quite literally propaganda and the stuff that tin foil hat loonies have been warning about for years... If that's where we are at politically I guess they weren't so crazy after all.

Lab leak theory is not "the truth". It's still very much a minority POV. And either way, it seems clear by now that the virus has originated in an animal reservoir and that similar things happen all the time.

Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

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Post by causi »

hnburnsy wrote: post #55

From Google support... https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/9228390 >Requirements To live stream on mobile, you’ll need: At least 50 subscribers. No live streaming restrictions within the last 90 days on your channel. To verify your channel. To enable live streaming. You may need to wait 24 hours before you can start your first live stream. An Android 5.0+ device. >Why is my mobile live stream’s audience limited…

So basically a big old "fuck you" to anyone witnessing a noteworthy event. No citizen journalism allowed.

Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

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Post by sct202 »

jffry wrote: post #27
PragmaticPulp wrote: post #2

Does anyone have more context? Or a link to a video showing this issue? This Reddit thread only seems to have a screenshot (though I didn’t scour the entire comment section). I’ve never seen this in the wild, and technically without a link I still haven’t seen it live at all. I’m wondering if the channel triggered some sort of anti-spam mechanism. EDIT: The only source I can find is from screenshots of right-wing Twi…

I found this tweet from Jan 8 in reply to somebody who was livestreaming a dogsledding race, complaining about the same error message: https://twitter.com/Cami5320/status/1479893333480599555 The account that streamed it on YT had some livestreams a year ago with 10s of views, and nothing recent except the stream in question which lists 1400 views. So this does seem to fit the pattern of restricting livestreams from s…

It's hard to monitor live streams for piracy. Twitch just had a trend of livestreamers streaming full movies and episodes of popular TV shows for hours on end.

Re: YouTube: Due to limited creator history we're limiting the number of views

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Post by 33ultra »

svnpenn wrote: post #38

This is fine. This is YouTube trying to curb antivax bullshit, which is a good idea > protests, since they were organized by truckers opposed to Covid vaccine mandates. https://reclaimthenet.org/youtube-capping-viewer-limits/

Which is a good idea for you. Maybe create or install a nanny-filter.

It is not a good idea for me. If I want official information, I know where to find it.

If I want to read about young men getting a heart attack one week after taking a vaccine, if I want to see how the pandemic is forming in China before going global, if I want to know how Indians combated flu epidemics with flavanoids, then I need to pass by the gate-keepers, and the experts who do not care about my personal health, just that as much people are vaccinated as possible.

But according to you that is not a good idea. I am not allowed to form my own opinion, because you think that opinion is damaging (perhaps even to you). It is a fact that all vaccines in existence increase miscarriages. But, especially after 2020, increasingly hard to find. Please do not think it is a good idea to tell a white lie, so less intelligent people go along with the government. It is not a strong-man, but to me, that is your position. Trying to curb that with feedback and debate, not censorship.

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