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Web3 and crypto skepticism is growing and people are finally starting to listen

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Re: Web3 and crypto skepticism is growing and people are finally starting to listen

#51

Crypto has only existed during the greatest and longest bull market of all time. Jury is still out on whether it can survive a prolonged bear market. Web3 consequently is also bound by this. If people are still interested in Web3 when crypto goes down 10% YoY forever then maybe there’s some inherent value there.

https://i.imgur.com/BVoYAo6.png was this a prolonged bear market?

Re: Web3 and crypto skepticism is growing and people are finally starting to listen

#52
post #5

I would separate the crypto craze from Web3 to be honest. On its face it doesn't really have to do with crypto currency at all. A centralization is otherwise no really desirable for many users.

Isn't the general thesis of Web3 partially based on the principles of decentralized blockchain technologies, a lot like crypto? If so they are certainly related to each other.

Well, then they are also related to a file checksum. I believe some ideas were around ledgers providing a means to authentication, which I don't like at all.

For me it was about decentralized platforms to emancipate people from large social media moguls that have enough info on user behavior that they can influence behavior. Interconnectedness would ensure that the draw of peers using the same network would vanish. At least theoretically.

Re: Web3 and crypto skepticism is growing and people are finally starting to listen

#53

Crypto has only existed during the greatest and longest bull market of all time. Jury is still out on whether it can survive a prolonged bear market. Web3 consequently is also bound by this. If people are still interested in Web3 when crypto goes down 10% YoY forever then maybe there’s some inherent value there.

in theory, web3 has nothing to do with cryptocurrency per se, and only relies on some blockchain technology, which is itself not bound to the value of the currency it is used by. however, the fact that too many people seem to think that there is in fact a connection between web3 and crypto currency just adds to the smell.

In practice, everything is indirectly tied to making more money 100x your "investment" in a blink of an eye.

If the entire crypto/defi/nft/gamefi/play2earn etc marketcap was 0 then nobody would even bother with interacting/developing with web3.

In-fact, nobody would even be interested in blockchain tech.

Re: Web3 and crypto skepticism is growing and people are finally starting to listen

#55

Crypto has only existed during the greatest and longest bull market of all time. Jury is still out on whether it can survive a prolonged bear market. Web3 consequently is also bound by this. If people are still interested in Web3 when crypto goes down 10% YoY forever then maybe there’s some inherent value there.

But then jury is out on whether there will ever be a bear market (or in other words will the central banks ever allow one). Also whether anything else (real estate, stocks or other assets) can survive it.

Most highly valued assets have intrinsic value. The jury isn’t out on real estate surviving a bear market at all.

Currently it’s unknown if crypto has intrinsic value. It certainly has extrinsic value, though.

Re: Web3 and crypto skepticism is growing and people are finally starting to listen

#56
post #41

Serious question: What problem does web3 or decentralization fix? - Oligopoly of the hyperscalers -> rent server from small provider like ovh/hetzner/netcup (there is plenty). The reason AWS, Azure and GCP are so popular is because people don't care. - Privavy intrusions -> Adblocker/DNS Blocker/Turn off JS/Use browser settings This won't be fixed by web3, ad monetization and tracking won't magically stop. They exist…

>What problem does web3 or decentralization fix? In some cases you can align incentives differently than with traditional solutions. For example with DEXs you can spread the profit and work (such as providing liquidity) to participants rather than a central operator. It's also easier to prove what mechanism of the operation can and cannot be changed as the code is right there and if you are trading you only have to t…

>It's also easier to prove what mechanism of the operation can and cannot be changed as the code is right there.

Prove might be too strong a word to use in this instance.

Re: Web3 and crypto skepticism is growing and people are finally starting to listen

#57
post #29

It’s pretty cool that I can send $1M to someone without a bank intervening, not to mention that nobody can stop the transaction from happening. And then they can print that out onto a sheet a paper and put it into a vault. Crypto is really great if you’re a drug dealer or some other kind of criminal.

That's a very disgusting generalization of the average crypto user. So since I've been using cryptocurrency for 11 years now, I am definitely a criminal or drug dealer...

What do you use it for?

Re: Web3 and crypto skepticism is growing and people are finally starting to listen

#58
post #20

Pretty sure this is because markets are going down. if/when prices go up again headlines will be skepticism disappears as people get into crypto again.

Bitcoin has "crashed" every year. This is nothing new to the crypto market.

Re: Web3 and crypto skepticism is growing and people are finally starting to listen

#59

Crypto has only existed during the greatest and longest bull market of all time. Jury is still out on whether it can survive a prolonged bear market. Web3 consequently is also bound by this. If people are still interested in Web3 when crypto goes down 10% YoY forever then maybe there’s some inherent value there.

Crypto has famously gone through several bear markets though and a bunch of 80% corrections.

Re: Web3 and crypto skepticism is growing and people are finally starting to listen

#60
The relentless number of anti-crypto and anti-web3 articles on HN is tiring. Nobody is forcing anyone to partake in this new technology. Skepticism is healthy, but criticism without being constructive is not.

There are clearly _some_ novel ideas in the crypto space, even if you think the state of the community today is not healthy. Thousands of teams are exploring ideas on many different fronts (e.g. L1s, L2s, NFTs). Most of them will fail and be forgotten, but there is a chance that _some_ of them will create genuinely novel and interesting products. Isn't that what Hacker News should be about?

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