What is the current state of research into the safety of e-cigs? The things have been around for over a decade now, but I haven't seen studies to show how much of a carcinogen they are for regular users. Has the product not been on the market lot enough for studies to be able to prove much of anything in either direction?
I read a bit about that, and now that tocopherol is no longer used as an additive, the only questions seem to be 1) if flavorings are not turned into bad things by the vaporization process 2) if nicotine has enough negative side effects when inhaled to warrant restricting what's an efficient and self-directed smoking cessation method. About 1) the solution for the FDA has been to ban flavorings, under the "think abou…
When cigarette companies used doctors to push smoking (2018)
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#52fun fact: cigarette usage does appear to at least decrease the chance of you getting ulcerative colitis still a shitty habit to pick up though
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#53Look at the timeline: 1930 - first cigarette company uses physicians in their ads 1950s - evidence starts mounting that smoking causes lung cancer 1964 - US Surgeon General report on the link between smoking and cancer 1998 - cigarette companies still maintained that the link is controversial So it takes 70 years, or nearly an entire generation, before all of the machinery at play (businesses, government, healthcare,…
Yeah who knows what unequivocal advice we could be getting from experts right now that will be thoroughly debunked 70 years from now. (Are dairy and grains still food groups... I could easily go on)
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is a good reminder of how fallacious the "appeal to experts" really is. Critical thinking is underrated. (At the time of editing, the parent comment is flagged. That's too bad, I think the comment is a succinct reminder why, as I say, you should make up your own mind and not assume "expertise" means someone is acting in your interest)
While I agree with you, unfortunately a lot of people saying this do it to cast doubt on vaccines/mRNA/anything they don't like, further cementing the political divide and damaging public trust. Even if I am a firm believer in individual freedom - including the possibility of self informed individuals to refuse vaccination if they think their individual risk is more important than group immunity, I fear we may see th…
immunity means the body will be immune to the virus.
the injections do not provide immunity.
its hard to run a small to medium business these days:
- its not possible to know if there will be a lockdown X hours from now. (business must close)
- employees that feel perfectly fine are subjected to testing that might come false positive (yes this is possible with pcr). then employees take days off (boss cant know how many employees will show up).
how is it possible to run a business under such conditions ? if its a restaurant, the food might expire.
at the same time the too big to fail are open as 'essential' business. and receive bail outs if needed.
thats a disfunctional capitalism.
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#57On another note, I was prescribed a medicine 20 years ago called Propulsid. When I went to fill the prescription, the pharmacist told me that he would not recommend I take it. I contacted the doctor and he was pissed that the pharmacist had given me that recommendation. In the end I didn't take it, which is a good thing because it was removed from the market several years later for causing heart issues.
>WARNING
>Serious cardiac arrhythmias including ventricular tachycardia, ventricular fibrillation, torsades de pointes, and QT prolongation have been reported in patients taking cisapride.
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#58>In the 1930s and 40s smoking was cool back then. it was a social thing to do. you can see that in old Hollywood movies.
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#59Look at the timeline: 1930 - first cigarette company uses physicians in their ads 1950s - evidence starts mounting that smoking causes lung cancer 1964 - US Surgeon General report on the link between smoking and cancer 1998 - cigarette companies still maintained that the link is controversial So it takes 70 years, or nearly an entire generation, before all of the machinery at play (businesses, government, healthcare,…
Yeah who knows what unequivocal advice we could be getting from experts right now that will be thoroughly debunked 70 years from now. (Are dairy and grains still food groups... I could easily go on)
Social Media consumption is another.