PyFlow – Visual scripting framework for Python – NodeRED alternative?

Post by z3ncyberpunk » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 3:05 PM UTC

ethbr0 wrote: post #49

bmitc wrote: post #46

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> ASCII and Unicode are standards. Right, and those didn't just materialize out of thin air. They took time and effort to develop. My point is that we shouldn't keep shooting down visual based tools and languages on the notion that there aren't standards, because there isn't anything (besides preconceived biases) that prevent them. There are many things that text is just not good at describing, such as dataflow, and…

I'd be more sympathetic to this idea if I hadn't seen the tactic executed repeatedly over the last 10 years to ensure vendor lock-in, which ultimately burns the end user. And/or requires them to insecurely freeze a portion of their IT infrastructure in time. And honestly, if your GUI/designer is standardized , then it's trivial to define a stable serialization to and from text anyway.

Post by z3ncyberpunk » Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 5:57 PM UTC

ethbr0 wrote: post #52

z3ncyberpunk wrote: post #51

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You only need to sympathetic because you have let yourself become jaded by your anecdotal experience.

It didn't feel anecdotal when I was the one trying to modernize systems like these in the face of vendor apathy (or active hostility) and business resistance to change, because they had 10+ years of legacy "code" built in these things.