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Cannabinoids Block Cellular Entry of SARS-CoV-2 and the Emerging Variants

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Re: Cannabinoids Block Cellular Entry of SARS-CoV-2 and the Emerging Variants

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vmception wrote: post #36
hammock wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>They reduce chances of hospitalization by at least an order of magnitude, and the chances of death by even more Want to point out this was your response to the question, "Since the vaccinations are stopping the spread?" in case you wanted to re-read your answer.

That was the answer. People vocally cynical about the vaccines have always been using a strawman argument, in case you need a refresher a strawman argument requires two things: 1) creating a standard that was never used by the proponents 2) criticizing the made up standard to discredit the proponents on a medical level, it is clear this wasn't to stop the spread, it was to slow the spread as vaccinated infected have…

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Post by stadium »

tedivm wrote: post #42

It's important to note that the chemicals they tested with were the cannabinoid acids (CBDA, THCA). When smoking or cooking those acids are converted via decarboxylation. These final chemicals were not part of this study. In other words, this study only tested people eating raw uncooked cannabis. It does not tell you much about whether any benefits will be provided to your average smoker.

Tinctures are an option too. And a lot of edibles like chocolates and gummies wouldn't hit decarboxylation temp.

https://wayofleaf.com/education/decarboxylation

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Post by incrudible »

vmception wrote: post #36
hammock wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>They reduce chances of hospitalization by at least an order of magnitude, and the chances of death by even more Want to point out this was your response to the question, "Since the vaccinations are stopping the spread?" in case you wanted to re-read your answer.

That was the answer. People vocally cynical about the vaccines have always been using a strawman argument, in case you need a refresher a strawman argument requires two things: 1) creating a standard that was never used by the proponents 2) criticizing the made up standard to discredit the proponents on a medical level, it is clear this wasn't to stop the spread, it was to slow the spread as vaccinated infected have…

Fauci himself did claim the vaccinated are "dead ends" to the virus[1]. He dangled the carrot of "herd immunity through vaccination" around but then moved the threshold further and further, even admitting to being dishonest in the process[2]. Of course, we now all know herd immunity with vaccines is impossible and that they do next to nothing to inhibit spread. Perhaps some experts accurately predicted this, but that's not how it was communicated to the public. To suggest otherwise would be gaslighting.

[1] https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday-talk-shows/553773-fauci-...

[2] https://www.medpagetoday.com/opinion/vinay-prasad/90445

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Post by RC_ITR »

cstross wrote: post #10
jonnycomputer wrote: post #6

I did't know anything about the journal. I must admit, that something titled "Journal of Natural Products" didn't inspire much confidence. But it does look like it has been around for quite a long while, and has a respectable impact factor for a specialized journal too.

It's a pharmacognosy journal: not crank/fringe at all. (Pharmacognosy is the study of drugs of natural origin -- about half our small molecule pharmaceuticals are either extracted from or synthetic but based on modifications of drugs of botanic origin.)

Classic example of scientific terms overlapping with common terms and confusing the hell out of lay people.

People hate when scientists use jargon (often with good reason), but how many times will I have to listen to the 'all food is organic, it was once alive' joke?

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Post by teejmya »

mountainriver wrote: post #14

Totally anecdotal but my girlfriend and I recently went to wedding and even with pre testing and everyone vaccinated, a lot of people got Covid. I was super high that night (as most nights) and walked away unscathed. Obviously this could be due to a lot of things but that hasn’t stopped me from rubbing it in all my friends faces. It’s been of the few times in my life where my weed habit looks smart, and I’m loving ev…

Thank you for posting what I wasn’t going to, because I’m in the same boat. Recent wedding, many people positive, I’m somehow not, and I was stoned the whole time.

Anecdotal of course, but fascinating to think about.

Stay safe y’all.

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Post by tradesurplus »

hammock wrote: post #13

Too many "promising" studies like cannabis, vitamin D, chloroquine, ivermectin, etc have been later fact-checked by the CDC as bad science, to rely on anything but the CDC's word (or Fauci). Until the CDC says so I won't believe it. Right now it seems like mass vaccination is our only way out of this pandemic and back to normal.

The CDC now says you can cough into someone's mouth if your boss says it's alright.

The last two years of second order effect guessing miss-steps has seen those at the helm of the organisation burn through generations of credibility like a hand launched bottle rocket.

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