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World ocean temperatures in 2021 were the hottest ever recorded

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Re: World ocean temperatures in 2021 were the hottest ever recorded

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I have the feeling that many people (especially politicians) think that global warming is a linear process. It's not. It might even be exponential since some sources for climate-warming are affected by warmer climate. For example, melting ice that reflects sunlight back to space [ https://arcticwwf.org/places/last-ice-area/ ]. I'm thinking about choosing a new place to live right now. Climate change is a big factor f…

Where ought one move to optimize for climate change?

North Dakota.

Re: World ocean temperatures in 2021 were the hottest ever recorded

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I have the feeling that many people (especially politicians) think that global warming is a linear process. It's not. It might even be exponential since some sources for climate-warming are affected by warmer climate. For example, melting ice that reflects sunlight back to space [ https://arcticwwf.org/places/last-ice-area/ ]. I'm thinking about choosing a new place to live right now. Climate change is a big factor f…

Don't forget about the fact that the amount of energy required to phase change 0°C ice into 0°C water is about the same amount of energy required to heat 0°C water to 79°C water...

https://courses.lumenlearning.com/boundless-physics/chapter/...

Re: World ocean temperatures in 2021 were the hottest ever recorded

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I have the feeling that many people (especially politicians) think that global warming is a linear process. It's not. It might even be exponential since some sources for climate-warming are affected by warmer climate. For example, melting ice that reflects sunlight back to space [ https://arcticwwf.org/places/last-ice-area/ ]. I'm thinking about choosing a new place to live right now. Climate change is a big factor f…

Where ought one move to optimize for climate change?

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Re: World ocean temperatures in 2021 were the hottest ever recorded

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I have the feeling that many people (especially politicians) think that global warming is a linear process. It's not. It might even be exponential since some sources for climate-warming are affected by warmer climate. For example, melting ice that reflects sunlight back to space [ https://arcticwwf.org/places/last-ice-area/ ]. I'm thinking about choosing a new place to live right now. Climate change is a big factor f…

Where ought one move to optimize for climate change?

Scranton

Re: World ocean temperatures in 2021 were the hottest ever recorded

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Not only does science show the current temperatures are getting hotter than ever. We now know the past 50 years was colder than we ever thought. With new advanced scientific techniques, we now have a much better idea what the temperature was 50 years ago than they did 50 years ago. It should be kept in mind, these new temperatures measured now are not breaking records compared to the temperatures measure 50 years ago…

I don't understand this. How / why is near-historic data being changed? Got any more material on this?

The data is being "corrected" to "take away errors", this is clearly visible as well as explained by Heller in his many videos on the subject. Another issue is that the measuring network has notably shrunk in size in the last decades with the measurements from locations which have been taken out replaced by interpolated data. Heller claims that "uncorrected" historical data shows that the average temperature in the 30's was higher than it is today and that this is the reason for the "corrections" - simply to make the data fit the narrative. Looking at actual historical data seems to corroborate his claim of the records being "corrected", US state and territory temperature extremes [1] also show a tendency to have the highs somewhere in the 30's (23 states) with 1936 as the hottest year in 13 states. These are "uncorrected" temperature records.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state_and_territory_tempe...

Re: World ocean temperatures in 2021 were the hottest ever recorded

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I have the feeling that many people (especially politicians) think that global warming is a linear process. It's not. It might even be exponential since some sources for climate-warming are affected by warmer climate. For example, melting ice that reflects sunlight back to space [ https://arcticwwf.org/places/last-ice-area/ ]. I'm thinking about choosing a new place to live right now. Climate change is a big factor f…

Where ought one move to optimize for climate change?

Nowhere.

Don't commit to any locale and design a life that's highly mobile.

Re: World ocean temperatures in 2021 were the hottest ever recorded

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Is anyone on HN reconsidering having children because of climate change? Recently I've had a big shift myself on this topic, probably influenced by not many women my age (younger than 30) having any interest in bringing a child into a world where they could potentially suffer real physical danger due to climate change.

Well, the birds aren't going to fix climate change. I can't speak for the women you know, but the women I know in their 20s-30s tell me they aren't thinking about children at all probably thanks to the empowerment of women of the last 100 years. Over my life, I've heard all kinds of excuses for all people to not consider children until they are in their late 30s or 40s, then it's a rush. I did the same. I'm not sure…

yeah I've noticed that the antinatalists never seem to be saying, "man, I really really want to have kids, it's one of if not the most important driving forces in my life... but the threat of climate change looms ever-present, so it would be irresponsible to bring my heirs into this fallen Earth!"—it usually if not always seems to be a post-hoc excuse for a decision they've already made, or at the very least, a justification to move off the middle of the fence toward "no" instead of "yes." if anyone knows of anyone who's written something that contradicts this I would love to read it.

Re: World ocean temperatures in 2021 were the hottest ever recorded

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We should start by working to keep the ocean clean, then worry about the temperature of the polluted water. Why is there more interest in controlling the temperature vs the pollution itself? consumerism needs to change for temperature to change

These are different problems that both need to be addressed as soon as possible, but for different reasons. Having said that, runaway global warming seems like the more pressing existential threat to me.

Re: World ocean temperatures in 2021 were the hottest ever recorded

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Is anyone on HN reconsidering having children because of climate change? Recently I've had a big shift myself on this topic, probably influenced by not many women my age (younger than 30) having any interest in bringing a child into a world where they could potentially suffer real physical danger due to climate change.

The irony of this is that the people who care about the wellbeing of the planet enough to question having children due to climate concerns are the ones who really should be having children. They are more likely to raise them to be conscious of issues like this, to look for solutions, and to minimize their impact.

Yep, and even worse: it's the super-religious loonies that are pumping out children like no tomorrow.

Re: World ocean temperatures in 2021 were the hottest ever recorded

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This is fine

I see you're being downvoted; I suspect OP is sarcastically referring to the "dog in a burning kitchen" meme..

You're correct. I erroneously thought I didn't need the /s, but alas... I was mistaken.
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