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I took a job at Amazon, only to leave after 10 months

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Re: I took a job at Amazon, only to leave after 10 months

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I don't have dark mode enabled. What I see seems to be the default style, and is consistent across multiple browsers for me.

Very interesting. This is what I see - https://i.imgur.com/eV4yDd0.png

This is almost exactly what I see on Edge 64-bit 96.0.1054.62, Windows 10 19042.1415

Re: I took a job at Amazon, only to leave after 10 months

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post #22
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have dark mode enabled. What I see seems to be the default style, and is consistent across multiple browsers for me.

Very interesting. This is what I see - https://i.imgur.com/eV4yDd0.png

This is what I see: https://imgur.com/dN7nPOS . Almost unreadable after a few minutes, it's so faint.

Re: I took a job at Amazon, only to leave after 10 months

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"It blew my mind how many business critical processes were managed with excel spreadsheets being shared via email chains." - this also blows my mind, given how many problems there are with Excel (e.g. formatting).

Formatting is a very very distant minor gripe compared to what I think is the main reason this is a problem: versioning. That being said, if it works, it works. If it doesn't work, make a case for why and develop a _holistic_ understanding of the costs and benefits of changing the current process. Maybe you can change it, or maybe you learn why it doesn't change. If it works, but it offends your sensibilities, perhap…

> If it works, but it offends your sensibilities, perhaps this is an opportunity for self-growth.

I've had to learn this lesson. We have an internal microservice whose name is obsolete and no longer makes any sense whatsoever. Everyone is confused by the name until the original reasoning is explained, and they come to understand the original purpose of the service, now long since changed. It drives me up the wall.

I have time and time again made a case for renaming it to accurately represent its modern purpose, which would take an engineer about a week of work - there's a lot of code and config that has to be switched over.

The person running my division has shut me down on this over and over. It goes like this:

Manager: Why do you feel this is a priority?

Me: It confuses people and makes the code less self-explanatory.

Manager: How much time is this costing engineers?

Me: Well, about a minute every time I have to explain it to someone once a week.

Manager: And it would take a week to update? This doesn't seem like a good trade.

Me, mentally spluttering: But the name makes no sense!! It's the wrong name!! It's completely unrelated and has no meaning!

Manager: Do you think you can work with it anyway?

Me: sadly sighs.

I think the manager is right, as much as it offends my sensibilities.

Re: I took a job at Amazon, only to leave after 10 months

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> (It is incredible how flexible and effective Excel is for such a wide variety of use-cases)

I worked for a Japanese company, and they used Excel for everything. GANTT Charts were done in Excel (not Project), documentation was written in Excel (not Word), etc.

They had these monster 3,000-row excel punchlists for QC. If even one test failed, the whole shooting match was scrapped.

Re: I took a job at Amazon, only to leave after 10 months

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They do consider retention, make no mistake.

Could you expand on this, please?

I believe the commenter was implying that their policy takes retention into account, and amazon simply doesn't value retaining employees

Re: I took a job at Amazon, only to leave after 10 months

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At Amazon sign on bonuses are paid over the first 24month, so there is no need to pay back anything.

Is that a signing bonus or a agreement to get paid less in two years?

Is there a meaningful difference?

Re: I took a job at Amazon, only to leave after 10 months

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Cases like these happen at companies at all levels. Massive companies such as Amazon and especially at startups, where roles are not as defined. After only two months at my current role, I was ready to leave. Was catfished into a role which was not what I interviewed for. Management agrees that I am getting short-changed, but is unwilling to let me change organizations. Sadly, I continue to stay here, after over a ye…

The funky thing is the different stigma attached to equivalent situations.

You embellish your CV as an individual and you overdo it = possible catastrophe.

Companies constantly embellishing job postings = just a regular Tuesday.

I'm having a really hard time remembering a job where the job descriptions really matched the day to day activities, and I've worked for ~10 companies, big and small, from Asia, Europe, America.

Re: I took a job at Amazon, only to leave after 10 months

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Hey congrats on making it 10 months! "Urgent to not block progress, but also ironic that they are asking a person who has no clue what they are doing to deliver critical work" Friend of mine started a role there (this was 4-5 years ago) and was fired (sorry... more or less asked to leave, being told he could keep his signing bonus if he just left) within about six weeks because he wasn't immediately delivering on som…

>he came back from parental leave and his direct reports had all been put on a PIP while he was out

Wow. It’s really difficult to imagine a likely scenario where that’s justified.

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