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Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by PragmaticPulp »

th9283749238 wrote: post #48
throwaway5752 wrote: post #16

I see people talking about weather getting unpredictable. This was predictable, and was predicted: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/ . The technical summary is 160 pages and should be required reading for anyone over the age of 13: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6... . The Paris Agreement, for all its problems, tries to keep increase below 1.5 C over pre-industrial. We are locked in for…

From talking to my (degree-holding) colleagues, they seem to think that everything will be well, and no amount of evidence would convince them otherwise. Felt like I was talking to antivaxxers. The IPCC report suggests first-world citizens reduce their energy footprint by 80% if we are to have even a remote chance of keeping things under control. Yet everybody is now making plans where to travel next when the pandemi…

> Are you sure you want to save this version of humanity?

This fatalistic, sneering attitude is the least effective way of discussing climate change with people who don’t yet understand the issue.

I think a lot of people don’t realize just how much of a turn-off these attitudes are to people who are on the fence or otherwise doubtful. It’s not helpful.

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by throwaway5752 »

Yuioup wrote: post #26
throwaway5752 wrote: post #16

I see people talking about weather getting unpredictable. This was predictable, and was predicted: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/ . The technical summary is 160 pages and should be required reading for anyone over the age of 13: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6... . The Paris Agreement, for all its problems, tries to keep increase below 1.5 C over pre-industrial. We are locked in for…

How do you 'retire on software'. I'm a software engineer and I have nowhere near enough savings for retirement, not even close.

It was a typo, and I corrected it to read "retire from software". I expect it will impact my lifestyle.

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by [deleted] »

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #51
th9283749238 wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From talking to my (degree-holding) colleagues, they seem to think that everything will be well, and no amount of evidence would convince them otherwise. Felt like I was talking to antivaxxers. The IPCC report suggests first-world citizens reduce their energy footprint by 80% if we are to have even a remote chance of keeping things under control. Yet everybody is now making plans where to travel next when the pandemi…

> Are you sure you want to save this version of humanity? This fatalistic, sneering attitude is the least effective way of discussing climate change with people who don’t yet understand the issue. I think a lot of people don’t realize just how much of a turn-off these attitudes are to people who are on the fence or otherwise doubtful. It’s not helpful.

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Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by LightG »

jonp888 wrote: post #23
throwaway5752 wrote: post #16

I see people talking about weather getting unpredictable. This was predictable, and was predicted: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/ . The technical summary is 160 pages and should be required reading for anyone over the age of 13: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6... . The Paris Agreement, for all its problems, tries to keep increase below 1.5 C over pre-industrial. We are locked in for…

I do, I just don't see any pointles in fighting a hopeless war that is already lost.

You're the kind of guy I'd follow into battle.

I will follow you, my liege!!!

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by groundhogday3 »

mhh__ wrote: post #17
iqanq wrote: post #3

Given the terrible problems we are having with energy prices, I will interpret this as God laying His hands upon us :P

As far as I'm aware, the Bible does instruct the faithful Christian to look after god's creation. Considering the zeal of American Christianity, this has apparently been lost on many (i.e. the cold atheists in Europe are doing a better job).

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Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by [deleted] »

jfk13 wrote: post #49
jacquesm wrote: post #2

NL as well, one record after another is broken. Today I saw some very confused wasps and bees flying around, in 15 degree Celsius weather.

Here (in the UK) we went for a walk this afternoon, and I noticed primroses in flower... at least a couple months too early. I guess they're hoping some confused bees will come along...

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Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by mytailorisrich »

jfk13 wrote: post #49
jacquesm wrote: post #2

NL as well, one record after another is broken. Today I saw some very confused wasps and bees flying around, in 15 degree Celsius weather.

Here (in the UK) we went for a walk this afternoon, and I noticed primroses in flower... at least a couple months too early. I guess they're hoping some confused bees will come along...

That can be a problem because there's still a high chance of frost, not least because the coldest period of winter is still ahead of us: when it's too mild and plants start to bud early they run the risk of being burnt by frost later on...

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by jacquesm »

Scoundreller wrote: post #5
jacquesm wrote: post #2

NL as well, one record after another is broken. Today I saw some very confused wasps and bees flying around, in 15 degree Celsius weather.

-20C in Thunder Bay if you’re ever thinking about coming back. And that’s the high! https://www.theweathernetwork.com/ca/weather/ontario/thunder...

Ah, Thunder Bay. That is one of the nicer spots that I've visited. Lake Superior is more like an inland sea and Thunder Bay is on of the best spots on the lake.

The chances of me coming back to Canada are very, very low. Another country in Europe however, especially one of the Nordics or the Baltics, that might just happen.

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by b_emery »

throwaway5752 wrote: post #16

I see people talking about weather getting unpredictable. This was predictable, and was predicted: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/ . The technical summary is 160 pages and should be required reading for anyone over the age of 13: https://www.ipcc.ch/report/ar6/wg1/downloads/report/IPCC_AR6... . The Paris Agreement, for all its problems, tries to keep increase below 1.5 C over pre-industrial. We are locked in for…

Bill Gate's book has a good summary of the technical challenges and the scientific and engineering needs. It's an easy read and I highly suggest it.

Re: New Temperature Records for the UK

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Post by polotics »

irthomasthomas wrote: post #30

It was 15C NYE and the record was 18.0C at Abergwyngregyn, Gwynedd in 1972. I am pretty happy to be honest, considering the fuel crisis, this is a blessing to some. I am not convinced that life everywhere will suddenly be terrible just because it is a little warmer. We had warm periods before and things got better. The Late Bronze Warm Period, The Roman Warm period, and the Middle Age Warm Period. https://imgr.search…

It is not going to be a little warmer: do you know about averages? Two degree higher average temperatures means many European forests will burn and not recuperate. With four, even Ireland desertifies. Climate change is only just getting started, by the time people like you realize action is needed, it will be much too much too late. The movie "don't look up" comes to mind.
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