I'm fascinated by North Korea. I think the author shouldn't be so smug about seeing through their propaganda. We have such a sophisticated propaganda in the west that it's much harder to see it. In comparison NK propaganda is refreshingly childish, funny I would say.
North Korea's Loch Ness Monster (2016)
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#52I'm fascinated by North Korea. I think the author shouldn't be so smug about seeing through their propaganda. We have such a sophisticated propaganda in the west that it's much harder to see it. In comparison NK propaganda is refreshingly childish, funny I would say.
It's not the same.
The difference is that if you go around in North Korea (or in China, these days) saying Dear Leader is clown, somebody shows up at your doorstep with guns. Here it's a national sport.
The difference is the people with guns. Ask Denise Ho.
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#53I’m disappointed there’s no backstory on the author, how / why did he get into North Korea?
Non-American tourists go to North Korea all the time, the tours are just heavily controlled by the government. It's a proper industry.
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#55I'm fascinated by North Korea. I think the author shouldn't be so smug about seeing through their propaganda. We have such a sophisticated propaganda in the west that it's much harder to see it. In comparison NK propaganda is refreshingly childish, funny I would say.
It's amazing how every time an article like this comes up, somebody tries to equivocate it with the west. It's not the same. The difference is that if you go around in North Korea (or in China, these days) saying Dear Leader is clown, somebody shows up at your doorstep with guns. Here it's a national sport. The difference is the people with guns. Ask Denise Ho.
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>"We have such a sophisticated propaganda in the west" Do not flatter. It is quite visible and primitive.
Dude the fact you and him even accept the concept of "the west" is a testament to relentless and constant propaganda. That there is a unified front of "mostly white people" all sharing american values, guns and private prison alike. Even China loves this idea of the western "box" they can put me, a French, in to associate all my ideas to every stupid american policies. From Moscow to Los Angeles, everything west of C…
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Yes, unfortunately. You also have many people who believe Trump said Nazis are very fine people. You have many people who believe Trump told his supporters to drink bleach in other to fight coronavirus.
And unfortunately, we have many people who still believe Trump won the 2020 election.
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> If it was "propaganda" as opposed to credible, unproven allegations you'd be pointing us to paragraphs about how meetings between Trump campaign officers and Russian officials probably or definitely did not happen as alleged, I have not seen these paragraphs that provide evidence that Trump colluded with Russia to hack the election in the Mueller report. Maybe you could point them out? > not clutching at the straws…
The report consists of nearly 400 pages of evidence supporting three of the central "Russiagate" claims - that Russian agents sought to help Trump, that multiple Trump campaign staff had meetings with Russian operatives, and that Trump himself personally encouraged his campaign staff to take steps to obtain and disseminate Hillary's unlawfully obtained emails as part of his campaign messaging. You will forgive me for…
The Mueller report concluded that there was no evidence of collusion (conspiracy), bu that doesn't mean anything because it's like how you can't see the wall from South Korea.
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Yes, unfortunately. You also have many people who believe Trump said Nazis are very fine people. You have many people who believe Trump told his supporters to drink bleach in other to fight coronavirus.
>You have many people who believe Trump told his supporters to drink bleach in other to fight coronavirus. Indeed, he merely suggested to inject bleach in order to fight the coronavirus [1]. Of course afterwards he said that was sarcastic, but even if that was true it's not really much better. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33QdTOyXz3w
"And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that? By injection inside or or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs and it would be interesting to check that. So you're going to have to use medical doctors but it sounds interesting to me."
He's talking about medical research or trials. He's probably confused about what they told him or doesn't understand how it would work, but he's talking to some doctor or scientist off screen about what they've just told him is being worked on. He didn't suggest people inject bleach, he was asking about medical trials.
Is that really what the whole "he told people to inject bleach" scandal was based on? Surely not. As far as gaffes go it's not even that bad is it? What's so bad about it?
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Dude the fact you and him even accept the concept of "the west" is a testament to relentless and constant propaganda. That there is a unified front of "mostly white people" all sharing american values, guns and private prison alike. Even China loves this idea of the western "box" they can put me, a French, in to associate all my ideas to every stupid american policies. From Moscow to Los Angeles, everything west of C…
“Western” is a shortcut for the dominant alliance of imperialist countries: US, UK, most of Western Europe, Canada, Australia, New Zealand. Materially also Israel and Japan, but rarely in rhetoric. The concept is used both to critique the imperialist countries and to strengthen their alliance, by different people.