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Re: Steam has been banned in China

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Post by simonh »

rosndo wrote: post #39
siva7 wrote: post #25

What is going on here with the comment section? Seems like it's flooded with pro ccp activists

Standard practice anywhere you have Chinese people, most are perfectly reasonable but many are deeply indoctrinated nationalists. Unfortunately the rest aren’t willing or able to do anything about the genocide cheerleader squad.

The communist party party has successfully managed to associate love of China with loyalty to the party and government, and criticism of the party with being “anti-Chinese”. So being pro-democracy in Hong Kong is being anti-China, and opposing the ethnic and cultural suppression in Xinjiang is China hating.

My wife is Chinese and we have a Chinese friend here in the UK we have to be careful what we say to. She gets upset if anything critical of the Chinese government comes up, because she “loves China”. We love China too, just not the communist party.

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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Post by inglor_cz »

siva7 wrote: post #14
taway54321 wrote: post #7

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Not sure if this is satire or you need help

This is how China is going to sell itself and its political model in the coming decades.

I wish the OPs comment wasn't flagged and dead, because we need to stop closing our eyes in front of this development and start preparing ourselves mentally for combatting it.

Chinese model is going to be sold as a method of building unified, mission-oriented nations that have long term objectives and do not spend their energy and resources on endless squabbles of special interest groups.

This will be attractive to some people who crave political stability and economic growth, at least as long as China really grows. It will probably only stop working after some major crash / bubble burst in the Chinese economy.

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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Post by cosmodisk »

OtomotO wrote: post #46

"we've always been at war with eastasia" The major problem I see, is that every major power uses propaganda to their benefit, yet even highly intelligent people often don't see the propaganda of their native (or chosen) home. I see the propaganda of China, Russia as well as the one of the US and Europe. There are no white, selfless knights around. There never were. Does that mean that nothing matters, that (subjectiv…

Well it's the first page from 'Politics for Dummies': find an enemy and blame it for everything. If there's no enemy,create one or even imagine one.

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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Post by axiosgunnar »

OtomotO wrote: post #46

"we've always been at war with eastasia" The major problem I see, is that every major power uses propaganda to their benefit, yet even highly intelligent people often don't see the propaganda of their native (or chosen) home. I see the propaganda of China, Russia as well as the one of the US and Europe. There are no white, selfless knights around. There never were. Does that mean that nothing matters, that (subjectiv…

Of course I see Western propaganda, but at least Western propaganda pretends to benefit me.

So I would rather pretend to believe in Western progaganda than Chinese propaganda.

„Humans are humans“ is dangerously naive in a world full of thug nations.

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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Post by gunfighthacksaw »

OtomotO wrote: post #26
IsThisYou wrote: post #15

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If you resurrected Lenin, took him for a walk around Shanghai or Beijing and explained the deal to him he would be proud since so much of their political system is derived from Leninism, ergo communism. Even their market economy seems like a redux of Lenin’s NEP.

Don’t try pulling that tired old “not real communism” schtick, we all see through it. Another thing, if they weren’t communists, where is the incentive to keep up the charade with all the symbolism? Surely a rational non-communist polity would realize there is a lot to gain from dropping the whole red, socialist realism and adopt a more (post-)modern aesthetic.

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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Post by qybaz »

manuelabeledo wrote: post #47
foverzar wrote: post #36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really love how we all have an impression of China as a country without access to global internet, but then there are things like "Most Chinese Steam users have historically been using the global service instead". Really makes you want to visit and see how this actually works for yourself. The more I read about China, the more unbelievably contradictive it gets.

It is indeed a country full of contradictions. I was there in 2016, and besides the usual, like Google, Netflix, Facebook or Twitter, most western sites seemed to work, just very, very slow for some reason. Also, some high end hotels did provide unfettered access to the Internet for some reason, so I guess anyone could go there and browse Facebook for the price of an expensive coffee.

>Also, some high end hotels did provide unfettered access to the Internet for some reason, so I guess anyone could go there and browse Facebook for the price of an expensive coffee.

Practically everybody who is knowledgeable with computers uses a VPN - restrictions are only for "the plebs"

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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Post by miohtama »

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #45
siva7 wrote: post #25

What is going on here with the comment section? Seems like it's flooded with pro ccp activists

You'll find the same with any article critical of China. The party is paying people (quite well) to defend China online. It's another kind of misinformation campaign.

You can also check the comment history of these people to see if they are outright government trolls or brainwashed university students. Sometimes it is pretty clear.

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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Post by tombh »

siva7 wrote: post #25

What is going on here with the comment section? Seems like it's flooded with pro ccp activists

I must offer another data point. I'm British, and often find myself in these threads criticising criticism of China. Not because I'm being paid by the CCP, but because I believe that mainstream anti-Chinese sentiment tells us more about the West's psychological struggles to come to terms with its own historically unprecedented imperial past, than it does about China itself.

Re: Steam has been banned in China

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Post by pell »

dkjaudyeqooe wrote: post #45
siva7 wrote: post #25

What is going on here with the comment section? Seems like it's flooded with pro ccp activists

You'll find the same with any article critical of China. The party is paying people (quite well) to defend China online. It's another kind of misinformation campaign.

Always interesting to see what kind of mindblowing absurdities they come up with to defend the horrendous acts against the Uighur people. I also see it in German comment sections at this point.
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