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Post by ttyprintk » Thu, Dec 30, 2021, 10:23 PM UTC

elnatro wrote: post #50

inawarminister wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a whataboutism apologia, which is cool. But the English mainly "lucked" out by settling into pre-agriculture (or post-agriculture) places with very small number of natives. Where there are many, like in Canada, New Zealand and even CONUS, the English (and most protestant colonizers) were much more willing to live and let live compared to Catholics. But the Conquistadors were just the first anyway, all the lat…

Sure, Protestants were much more likely to let natives alive, that’s why Native Americans were exterminated (e.g. broken treaties with natives) and moved to reservations and South American natives were considered people in the XVI century by the Catholic Monarchs.

Umm, that system, the encomienda, was undoubtedly slavery. That it resembled pre-colonial rule does not absolve the Spanish Empire from recognizing it. Everyone knew it was a death sentence, clear enough when they sent English “Lutheran dogs” into the mines, too.

You’re both arguing about revising history when plainly the rule is this: if the colonizer let you live (or even encouraged breeding) it was to extract labor.