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Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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And that is why the very first thing every new WiFi router in my household gets is a fresh installation of OpenWRT in place of whatever vendor software it has. And I look at compatibility matrix before buying it. This strategy has worked very well. I upgrade on my terms.

Ditto; I only buy wireless hardware that can run openwrt on the day that I buy it. I may not flash it on that day, but I like to know that I can. My router is an x86 machine running opnsense.

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

#52
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The TP-Link OnHub is still for sale on Newegg right now. I don't see how Google can control the behavior of retailers of 3rd-party hardware.

How come smaller companies like Zyxel and Asus have solved this problem decades ago? Maybe because they support their hardware for years after they stopped producing, so the stock clears?

Do they though? Are there regular security updates for their products for every one of their models? My suspicion is they just silently stop support.

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

#53
post #11

And that is why the very first thing every new WiFi router in my household gets is a fresh installation of OpenWRT in place of whatever vendor software it has. And I look at compatibility matrix before buying it. This strategy has worked very well. I upgrade on my terms.

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Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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> Looking at that, I'm wondering who is stupid enough to buy a new device from them like this. It is like 'bite me once, bite me again please.'. 'eh, we just self destroyed your device, because, fuck you, but here is a coupon to buy a new one from us that we will also kill in a few years' ...

I dunno, I'd have to do a TCO analysis; if they give you 40% off, and you just assume it'll die after X years but be fully supported for that time and then you upgrade to a faster unit with next-gen wifi or whatever, it could still work out to be a good deal. Like... not my cup of tea (TCO is even nicer when the unit's lifespan is indefinite), but it's a plausible tradeoff.

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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post #51
post #11

And that is why the very first thing every new WiFi router in my household gets is a fresh installation of OpenWRT in place of whatever vendor software it has. And I look at compatibility matrix before buying it. This strategy has worked very well. I upgrade on my terms.

Ditto; I only buy wireless hardware that can run openwrt on the day that I buy it. I may not flash it on that day, but I like to know that I can. My router is an x86 machine running opnsense.

> I may not flash it on that day, but I like to know that I can.

I agree in the abstract, but I've seen enough devices ship OTA updates that make switching harder that I prefer to just cut over ASAP these days. (This is a general approach, not just for network gear; same as how I unlock my phone bootloaders right out of the box so I don't have to deal with data wiping)

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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On their search page they mention that they have been carbon neutral since 2007. I had like to ask them what about the millions of perfectly usable phones that had to be ditched because of Android and the vendor lock ins.

Chromebooks too. 6.5 years after the first unit is sold. So if you buy a model that's a few years old you'll only get a few years out of it.

On the bright side, Chromebooks often make great Linux devices if they have a good coreboot build available.

Re: Google to end support for OnHub routers in 2022

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The TP-Link OnHub is still for sale on Newegg right now. I don't see how Google can control the behavior of retailers of 3rd-party hardware.

How come smaller companies like Zyxel and Asus have solved this problem decades ago? Maybe because they support their hardware for years after they stopped producing, so the stock clears?

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