Why do we still permit tobacco use? (2015)
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Re: Why do we still permit tobacco use? (2015)
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think many people would like to see their loved ones live longer, healthier lives and die with relative comfort. That doesn't require being denial about their mortality.
Most people do not get the fortune of dying peacefully in their sleep, regardless of their health habits.
Re: Why do we still permit tobacco use? (2015)
#53Tobacco sales taxes show up in the current fiscal year, while chronic respiratory health costs show up decades down the road. Governments tend to be better than corporations at prioritizing long-term concerns over short-term accounting. However, there is substantial demographic that opposes regulations on narcotics. Specific ones, at least.
Look at how popular legalizing cannabis was in Canada over the last decade. Smoking pot is the most popular form of delivery for that narcotic and it's likely going to prove to have many of the same long-term consequences as smoking tobacco. Nonetheless, Canada legalized it. Doctors raised concerns and were ignored. The public willed it, and politicians don't stay politicians by ignoring the public's will.
Why do we still permit tobacco use? Because politicians have the power to prohibit it, not doctors.
Perhaps the doctors espousing prohibition don't have the right of it either. Narcotics have been a part of human existence across the globe for all of recorded history. Although many people successfully abstain from them, narcotics seem to fill a basic human need.
Research on safe, enjoyable recreational drugs is virtually nonexistent. Perhaps we should focus on filling that human need while minimizing the side-effects. To put it another way, with all the medical and pharmacological advances we've made in the last century, does it really make sense that people are still sucking on burning leaves to get high?
Re: Why do we still permit tobacco use? (2015)
#54Earlier quoted context omitted.
You have to die of something eventually. We are not immortal.
I think many people would like to see their loved ones live longer, healthier lives and die with relative comfort. That doesn't require being denial about their mortality.
Re: Why do we still permit tobacco use? (2015)
#55Personally I like cigars and hookah. I smoke maybe once a year. I'm not saying millions of people should die just so I can smoke, but I'd be fine with chewing tobacco and cigarettes being banned, while indigenous and more ceremonial / social forms of tobacco are kept.
Re: Why do we still permit tobacco use? (2015)
#56You could construct an equivalent argument about bacon.
Re: Why do we still permit tobacco use? (2015)
#57Smoking is bad but prohibition is worse. Being subjected to the carcercal system is worse for your health than smoking.
Being subjected to the carceral system is indeed bad for your health, but there's a gap here: you haven't explained why banning smoking means we have to put people in prison. I would have thought to just fine them, or tax purchases out of existence. No need for shackles.
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#59Re: Why do we still permit tobacco use? (2015)
#60Smoking is bad but prohibition is worse. Being subjected to the carcercal system is worse for your health than smoking.
This, to me, is the only compelling reason. Prohibition is almost always worse. Even just prohibition of production -- not use -- has substantial negative externalities. Almost every other argument is absurd on-face. Even base appeals to "freedom" fall flat given the significant secondary and tertiary effects of smoke exposure, as well as the huge cost imposed on society by smoking.
On your last point, from what I've seen smoking saves society money because it kills people at much younger ages so governments don't have to pay for their health care for nearly as long.