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Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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Why are people surprised and shocked by this? If a pack of stray dogs killed a human child, we would exterminate them without further thought, and we would call it "animal control." Even when an otherwise protected species like a bear in a national park kills a human, we make an exception and kill that animal.

> Why are people surprised

Who said anybody is surprised?

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

#52

I’d like to see these Monkeys try and capture my 54kg (129lb) Doberman. He is ridiculously strong, has broken a few collars and is impossible to move if he decides to stay put.

Monkeys are ridiculously strong and vicious when they go to war in groups.

Monkeys are also capable of tool/weapon use.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

#53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd bet a pair of them could pick up and throw a human; if they could get the co-ordination right. 50lbs of dog is a bad opponent for a human, 2 of them and humans lose that fight fairly often. Some of the dogs in the video I saw were that size and larger; so if the monkeys can harass and herd them effectively then I'd expect them to be able to do it to a human as well. A human prepared to fight and ready to start ki…

The article said the humans have "culled" about 1000 of the monkeys. It's interesting that we use different euphemisms depending on who's doing the killing.

The same term is used for cattle. I guess species at the top of the food chain choose the terms of art. I wouldn't be surprised, though, to learn that the monkeys have their own sound/ utterance to mean the killing of people.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

#54

Why are people surprised and shocked by this? If a pack of stray dogs killed a human child, we would exterminate them without further thought, and we would call it "animal control." Even when an otherwise protected species like a bear in a national park kills a human, we make an exception and kill that animal.

> Why are people surprised Who said anybody is surprised?

It's posted to HN. You wouldn't see "${western_city} Animal Control Removes Stray Dogs from Park After Child Killed" on HN.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

#55

If an instinct or circuitry around revenge can exist in monkeys, I wonder if humans can ever fully escape that tendency, or if it is just built into who we are.

HG Wells speculates about this in The Time Machine. The futuristic humans lost their revenge instinct and are helpless against their subterranean tormenters.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

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> villagers began attempting to rescue the dogs on their own. But some of them have found themselves subject to the monkeys' retaliation, and some have even injured themselves or fallen from buildings how strong are these monkeys? I mean I know monkeys are strong but can they really ambush a human, and push them over a ledge? can they kidnap a human, carry them upward and drop them over a ledge?

> can they really ambush a human, and push them over a ledge? I would say male adult monkeys in my village can (males are bigger and stronger), although they don’t. They are fast, agile and acrobatic. Except for well prepared adult humans, monkeys can throw everyone else off a ledge. Reason so many monkeys exist in India is because they are sacred animals (to Hindus, 80% population). In our village, no one can kill t…

Do you think this could change ?

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

#58

Philosophical question, assuming kt's not a fake news: are those monkeys "evil"? If they revenge is agains siblings of the aggressor or just dogs in general, I would say so. Looks like they are intelligent enough to be evil.

Why are they evil? Or at least more evil than humans? Humans have eradicated wolves almost everywhere due to the danger they pose humans, particularly children. How is this situation different? The monkeys are even targeting the very same species that humans have long targeted.

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

#59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Why are people surprised Who said anybody is surprised?

It's posted to HN. You wouldn't see "${western_city} Animal Control Removes Stray Dogs from Park After Child Killed" on HN.

It's newsworthy because it's unusual, not surprising

Re: Group of monkeys kill over 250 dogs for 'revenge' in Indian town

#60

> villagers began attempting to rescue the dogs on their own. But some of them have found themselves subject to the monkeys' retaliation, and some have even injured themselves or fallen from buildings how strong are these monkeys? I mean I know monkeys are strong but can they really ambush a human, and push them over a ledge? can they kidnap a human, carry them upward and drop them over a ledge?

Strength doesn't come into the picture with monkeys. They attack by biting and scratching and often from hidden places like tree tops or rooftops. In many parts of India, the dogs are afraid to even bark at them. That said, adult monkeys are pretty big (3.5-4 feet) and aren't all that light weight. Anecdotally, a baby monkey fell into our neighbors house through bars on the roof and a group of almost 100 monkeys surr…

That is some "planet of the apes" level situation
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