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Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by chrsig »

dsr_ wrote: post #26

I don't understand the surrounding decisions. Differentiating by wired/wireless makes sense. Using two different programming systems? No. ZMK instead of adding BT support to QMK? Why? RGB underglow but not individually programmable key backlights? For the money they are charging, all of these things should have been extremely easy decisions. Anyone have insight?

My best guess is that they're not important decisions to their target audience.

I've been using a kinesis advantage for years, and I'm seriously considering getting one of these.

I do not at all care about ZMK vs QMK -- I don't even know why I should care.

RGB underglow? I don't even care that it's there, let alone programmable key backlights.

I care about ergonomics. The selling point is the split, and bluetooth/wireless capability, on top of all the existing ergonomic benefits.

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by thanhhaimai »

db65edfc7996 wrote: post #30

Sadly, no dedicated F-row. I would even settle for a subset of keys that aligned with the columns. I do not consider layers an adequate replacement. Happy to see they are moving away from their own software configuration. Not a fan of the software interface on the Freestyle Pro. More than once I have gotten myself into a loop where I am unsure which function mode is activated and how to switch back to what I want. I…

I've been using the Kinesis Advantage (modded QMK) for 6+ years, and I was so excited to see the headline. Then I realized there is no Fn row. :(

It seems like I should go stock some of the old version in case they decide to discontinue it and only offer non-Fn version later.

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by jagger27 »

zeeb wrote: post #10

Very similar vibes to the dactyl, if you're feeling handy and interested in a little DIY... https://github.com/adereth/dactyl-keyboard

The Dactyl gives Kinesis vibes, you mean! :^)

Kinesis has been around since the early 90s making keyboards like this.

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by simonsaysso »

gbrown_ wrote: post #43

It's a shame they couldn't get hot-swapable switches to work [1]. I have an ErgoDox with MX Browns which hasn't seen the light of day for a while. If I were to make a large outlay again on a keyboard I'd want to buy with the switches I now know I want or no switches and fit them myself. TBH I could take a soldering iron to my ErgoDox I just haven't had the motivation. As an aside I've always wondered why the Katana60…

If you're looking for something small but more ergonomic than a Plank, take a look at the Atreus (either as a DIY or in a kit from Keyboario[1]). I also had issues with the Plank but the slight angle of the keys on the Atreus has been extremely comfortable for me.

[1] https://shop.keyboard.io/products/keyboardio-atreus

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by jagger27 »

ianai wrote: post #28

What are the odds the pre-orders will be robbed by bots in a few seconds?

That seems unlikely, and it's not really how Drop usually works. They collect pre-order payments before manufacturing. This is probably an unlimited group buy.

Pre-oders on Drop.com usually stay open for a month or longer.

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by donatj »

db65edfc7996 wrote: post #30

Sadly, no dedicated F-row. I would even settle for a subset of keys that aligned with the columns. I do not consider layers an adequate replacement. Happy to see they are moving away from their own software configuration. Not a fan of the software interface on the Freestyle Pro. More than once I have gotten myself into a loop where I am unsure which function mode is activated and how to switch back to what I want. I…

For what it's worth I really hate the dinky little F keys on my Kinesis Advantage 2, they're hard to hit, awkwardly positioned and feel gross. F8 and F9 are entirely impossible to hit without moving your entire hand.

I consider this an upgrade. I personally think layer beats any keys I can't hit without taking my hands off home row.

That said my other main daily driver is an HHKB so I'm pretty used to switching layer for F keys.

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by tylermenezes »

In addition to all the comments from Advantage fans here, I also wanted to add that Kinesis has been an awesome company. I tweeted about some mods I made to my Advantage keyboard a long time ago, and they invited me to their office and donated a bunch of keyboards to the nonprofit I work for, to give as prizes to students (even before they launched the gaming-focused brand).

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by astuyvenberg »

inquist wrote: post #27

FWIW I've been quite happy with the ZSA Moonlander https://www.zsa.io/moonlander

+1 I really do like my new Moonlander, which I purchased in November. However, as a former Kinesis Advantage user, I miss the contoured shape, I think it helped a lot with carpal pain.

That said, I'm not sure I can justify another keyboard.

Re: Kinesis Advantage 360

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Post by dwringer »

dave_sid wrote: post #23

Kinesis Advantage keyboards saved my career. I had bad carpal tunnel syndrome. I tried evening out there. This is the only thing that remotely worked.

I didn't suffer from carpal tunnel but I'd get a lot of tension in my back and shoulders leading to sharp pains and deep aches that would last for days. Started using an Advantage2 and trackball in my non-dominant hand at work and within a week the symptoms were gone (and have stayed gone for a few years). I still use a normal keyboard and mouse in my dominant hand at home but the time spent that way is much less.
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