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PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

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post #22

People still use Chrome? I get that experimental web APIs are cool and all, but why not switch over to Brave or Firefox?

Do Chromium-based browsers also adopt this Manifestv3? If so, isn't Brave Chromium-based?

No they don’t, they manually merge code from upstream if they like it. Since Brave doesnt like it they wont merge it.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

#52
post #25

People still use Chrome? I get that experimental web APIs are cool and all, but why not switch over to Brave or Firefox?

Are you being serious? https://gs.statcounter.com/browser-market-share

It was a snub at Chrome. I understand that the vast majority of the world uses Chrome, I just think it's foolish if you want to preserve your privacy.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

#53
post #2

Are people really that adamant about blocking ads on the web? I don't understand why people think it's a good idea to remove the primary source of revenue for content creators. At the most it amounts to a very mild annoyance and ads also help small businesses to grow. Edit: I'd appreciate it if someone could respond to the points I made rather than simply complain about why they don't like ads.

Any semi-serious security posture must involve blocking ads. The incentives in the adtech industry mean that the security issues with ads can never be fixed.

This was really what made the decision easy for me back however many years ago when I started using an adblocker.

Internet ads can be irritating and the pervasive cross site tracking and profiling bothers me, but I don’t have fundamental issues with advertising generally. What is totally unacceptable is being served ads with malicious payloads on major websites.

If a website wants me to take their “please disable your adblocker” popup seriously they need to make 100% sure they don’t serve ads that instantly redirect the browser to a fake facebook phishing website that breaks the back button. Until then it’s adblock everywhere and the same for all of my friends and family to whom I give computer help.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

#54
post #38

[citation needed] Last time I checked, the author was going to attempt a port of uBlock to Manifest v3: https://www.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/ntlgkv/commen...

Chrome is removing the ability to examine an in-flight request and act on it with live code before it happens. So there is no way to port anything. You can perhaps remove all the live heuristics and just use the limited "static list of bad urls" functionality Google is leaving you with. But I wouldn't call that a port of the code.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

#55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

By themselves, ads aren't the real problem --- personalized ads are the problem. The idea that they have to profile and track your every move all over the internet in order to try and sell you stuff you don't really want or need. Example: If I go to a pet supply web site, an ad for dog food is perfectly understandable --- maybe even welcomed. But just because I was profiled visiting and maybe even buying, I shouldn't…

What about ads that are personalized just based on actions you've taken on the site, not from tracking you around the internet?

This is context based advertising. It is not personalized in that it has nothing to do with who you are. It is only based on what you do on the site.

DuckDuckGo has been pretty successful with context based advertising --- based simply on the terms you search for.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

#56
Time and time again I try to switch to Firefox. But it always seems to fall short (for me at least).

I rely too much on separate profiles to disconnect work-related browsing from personal browsing. Separate bookmarks, sessions, browser plugins, sync preferences etc...

A UI that's as powerful is literally all that is needed for me anyway. Its such a shame they've neglected the Profile Manager.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

#57
post #2

Are people really that adamant about blocking ads on the web? I don't understand why people think it's a good idea to remove the primary source of revenue for content creators. At the most it amounts to a very mild annoyance and ads also help small businesses to grow. Edit: I'd appreciate it if someone could respond to the points I made rather than simply complain about why they don't like ads.

I'm going to back up the GP on this! HN users tend to get annoyed by (1) ads, (2) paywalls, and (3) articles without enough research (aka time aka money). I'm cognizant of the fact that HN isn't a hive mind, and so these complaints aren't necessarily coming from the same people—but some certainly are. Well, which is it? Or do we expect content creators to work for free? If we have to pick a poison—and, well, I think…

> Well, which is it? Or do we expect content creators to work for free?

"we" don't care either way. Their business model is their business

In any case there's plenty of people not blocking ads. It looks like everyone uses adblock if you look at a tech audience because they are a tech audience, not because everyone is using adblock

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

#58
post #2

Are people really that adamant about blocking ads on the web? I don't understand why people think it's a good idea to remove the primary source of revenue for content creators. At the most it amounts to a very mild annoyance and ads also help small businesses to grow. Edit: I'd appreciate it if someone could respond to the points I made rather than simply complain about why they don't like ads.

Is it my responsibility to help "content creator" small business growth regardless of how ridiculous their revenue model is? Here is a tip: put some thought into the sustainability of tossing that responsibility over the wall to Google - if you want money, do the work. There was a time, not very long ago, when you could pretty easily control the amount of marketing you exposed yourself to.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

#59
Fuck. Just when I got used to Chromium due its nice profiles feature.

Sigh. Back to Firefox then. Or perhaps I should just stop using the web for anything except the necessities. Now that I think about it, that would probably make my life better in more than one way.

Re: PSA: uBlock/AdBlocks on Chrome to lose function thanks to Manifestv3

#60
post #29

Color me shocked. Why does anyone use Chrome anymore? Firefox is better in every way, and it isn’t tied to the biggest data harvester the world has ever known.

FF gpu acceleration doesn't work with nvidia and xorg.

As of version 59, WebRender is enabled by default on NVIDIA. I've been using it for a while and haven't noticed any major issues.
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