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Common Jobs in a Medieval City

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Re: Common Jobs in a Medieval City

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It's much easier to make clothes at home than shoes. I could probably cobble together an odd looking shirt given some time and instructions without needing to buy special tools, but leather shoes are an entirely different thing.

I'm amused and perplexed at your choice of the word "cobble" there

I’m not a native speaker so this was entirely unintentional, but now that you point it out I see the pun. Thank you.

Re: Common Jobs in a Medieval City

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I wonder what the most common jobs are in a modern city. Probably all bullshit.

Dunno about major cities, but there's national statistics for these things: https://www.bls.gov/emp/tables/employment-by-major-industry-...

BLS has the OEWS (occupational employment and wage statistics) at the national, state, and metropolitan/CBSA levels.

https://www.bls.gov/oes/home.htm

Re: Common Jobs in a Medieval City

#54

I'm surprised blacksmiths didn't cut to the top 10. Almost everyone would need some kind of metal tool(s) to do their job in medieval time.

Blacksmith wasn't a major job until the 1800s when industrial revolution made the job possible. In the 1800s a blacksmith should made nothing: everything was made in a factory and the blacksmith just did the final fitting or repair work. Sure they could and did do some custom decorative stuff, but only the rich could afford that.

Before then a city might have a couple in employee of the noble to make armor or swords, but the common person did without, or handed down tools until they couldn't be used at all. In a village a blacksmith was a side job of a talented farmer, but it couldn't pay the bills as nobody could afford to buy much custom made metal.

Re: Common Jobs in a Medieval City

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It surprises me that all 10 jobs still exist, while there are several more recent occupations that no longer exist (albeit they were not that common):

Milkmen, Elevator operator, Switchboard Operator, Ice Cutter, Bowling Pin Setter, Film projectionist, Lamplighter, Leech collector, Alchemist, Bematist, Redsmith, Daguerreotypist, Town crier

Re: Common Jobs in a Medieval City

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's much easier to make clothes at home than shoes. I could probably cobble together an odd looking shirt given some time and instructions without needing to buy special tools, but leather shoes are an entirely different thing.

I'm amused and perplexed at your choice of the word "cobble" there

Mind you -- my amusement was "odd looking shirt". It made me imagine what that would actually look like.

Re: Common Jobs in a Medieval City

#58

I'm surprised blacksmiths didn't cut to the top 10. Almost everyone would need some kind of metal tool(s) to do their job in medieval time.

Definitely a blacksmith in almost every city, but probably fewer blacksmiths per city than the other jobs. Metal tools are built to last, and are expensive, so it was probably often a low volume high cost kind of business where production could be covered by a minimal number of smiths.

My Dad was born before WW2 in a village in Eastern Europe, which was probably closer to a medieval village than to a 21st century one. He told me that a blacksmith would ask for 3 plum trees to do a certain job, presumably in order to make charcoal. I don't think there was anything special about plum trees, other than the local availability: people were (and still are) growing plum trees in order to make spirits. Giving up 3 plum trees meant giving up the spirits you could get from them for six years until the new trees would grow to maturity. So, yes, you wouldn't go to the blacksmith very often, if you could help it.

Re: Common Jobs in a Medieval City

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6th to 10th place are interesting: 6 – Tailors 7 – Notaries 8 – Barbers 9 – Retailers 10 – Stonemasons More notaries than barbers, retailers and stonemasons!

Likely not too surprising, given that most people were illiterate. Probably they also helped with letter writing/reading?

I've seen arguments that most people were literate. Learning to read and write is not hard, and it is a useful skill.

Of course literate was relative: before the printing press there wasn't much to read (book took months to copy by hand). You were reading and writing short notes. Spelling wasn't standardized so you phonetically spelled things and had to figure out what the other person meant. Good enough for letters, but nobody was writing books on anything since teaching in person was (or seemed to be) more efficient.

I'm not a historian, but the above seems like a good argument. Does anyone have a real reference as to the truth?

Re: Common Jobs in a Medieval City

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I'm surprised blacksmiths didn't cut to the top 10. Almost everyone would need some kind of metal tool(s) to do their job in medieval time.

My grandfather was a doctor in WWII and at one point traveled up through China and other places that had been heavily decimated / damaged / looted.

I remember him talking about how access to a ship (even if over long distance) with a good machine shop was critical to just get locals up and running with basic metal tools for everyday use and medical uses.

It reminded me of the importance of a local blacksmith and such.

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