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Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

#51

With FireFox becoming more and more unusable, does anybody with experience know if Vivaldi or Brave are objectively better (or faster or more stable)?

I switched to Brave this past year... so far so good. Firefox is fine, but I need a chromium browser for development, so chromium - google seems like a good alternative. I tried Vivaldi a couple of years ago but it didn't stick... will try again.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

#52

Congrats to Vivaldi! There is a good interview with Vivaldi founder on Tedium [1] where he basically says that because most browsers are built on Chromium nowadays, you have to innovate on features and that is the direction they took. And really the number of features in Vivaldi is staggering including some great ones like Tab Stacking and Tab Tiling. But adding this many features took a toll on performance and it is…

Is the UI still as horribly laggy? I try vivaldi every other year because people say it's faster, but it's almost as if those people only run that beast on a desktop or fully specced 15" laptops

I'm in the same boat. I've wanted to switch to them for years, but once I get it loaded with my requisite plugins and start using it for a while, the UI inevitably begins to experience random lags and moments of unresponsiveness.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

#54

Themes and the translation panel are the highlights according to their blog. And speed improvements.[1] [1] https://vivaldi.com/blog/vivaldi-5-0-desktop-themes-translat...

"Speed improvements" in every release but there must be something about the way the browser is implemented that just kills performance/efficiency vs other Chromium browsers. Even a basic test like Speedometer 2.0 shoots out that DOM manipulations are 75% the speed of the same benchmark on Chrome, what on earth is it doing to cause that? The interface is great but between performance and bugs I've never been able to s…

The UI is written in React, and apparently runs as a sort of an extension to chromium[0] according to a Vivaldi dev. I expect that would be a large source of performance decreases with a JS powered UI. It's certainly an impressive UI though.

[0]: https://www.reddit.com/r/vivaldibrowser/comments/f9ui2b/is_t...

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

#55

Congrats to Vivaldi! There is a good interview with Vivaldi founder on Tedium [1] where he basically says that because most browsers are built on Chromium nowadays, you have to innovate on features and that is the direction they took. And really the number of features in Vivaldi is staggering including some great ones like Tab Stacking and Tab Tiling. But adding this many features took a toll on performance and it is…

Is the UI still as horribly laggy? I try vivaldi every other year because people say it's faster, but it's almost as if those people only run that beast on a desktop or fully specced 15" laptops

Exactly what I was going to ask. They wrote the UI in javascript with obvious consequences. The day they rewrite it in a normal language they will see me again.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

#56
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wouldn't be surprised if that because Vivaldi had/has a corporate MS service using the domain in some way. E.g. if I test with one of my personal domains with MX records/email configured it continues just fine, if I test with one of my personal domains without email configure it continues just fine, if I try to create a personal account using my work's domain (tied to O365) it blocks it. So it's not that you can on…

Ok, good.. Then vivaldi.net is specifically blacklisted then. I checked and vivaldi.net is their community, everyone can sign up for email, whereas vivaldi.com is their "commercial" email domain. Both hosted in Iceland with valid MX that has got nothing to do with o365...

Doesn't necessarily have to be that the domain is tied to specifically O365 like my work just that it is registered for non-personal use with Microsoft's cloud e.g. Azure AD. Or possibly still other factors unknown but yeah the main thing is it's blocked for a reason not because it was missing from a whitelist.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

#57
post #11

Fun fact, Microsoft (Skype) will not accept user@vivaldi.net as a personal email address for new accounts. It needs to be gmail/yahoo/outlook etc. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FETZDicXEAEjlSQ?format=jpg&name=...

This seems to be a new trend - even IBM doesn't allow you to create accounts with non-American / non-BigTech email IDs (for their free cloud offering). Makes you wonder what is going on behind the scenes.

The Linux foundation is in the same league: They are sending me spam^Hmarketing communication, but when I want to unsubscribe they tell me that I have an invalid email. The provider of that address ended up on some self-declared blacklist years ago for some time, which might explain part of it. But not stopping to sending email to those you don't want to deal with is nonsense. Not accepting unsubscribes probably illegal in many countries.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

#58
post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is this still true of v5?

That's where I pulled the 75% result from just now, not sure if it's as systemic as it was originally as that's where I gave up bothering to test further this time.

It's fine on my 4-core Haswell Xeon desktop but I really notice the lag on my Haswell 2-core laptop. I suspect there's a bit too much Electron-type stuff in the UI.

It's a small price to pay for a browser that lets me configure the UI the way I want it. If Chrome supported tabs on the side as well as Vivaldi, even with an extension, I might not have switched. The rest of the configurability is just gravy for me.

Re: Vivaldi Browser 5.0

#60
post #11

Fun fact, Microsoft (Skype) will not accept user@vivaldi.net as a personal email address for new accounts. It needs to be gmail/yahoo/outlook etc. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FETZDicXEAEjlSQ?format=jpg&name=...

Pretty sure that's no longer the case or used to not be the case as I have a Microsoft account I use on Skype among other MS services that is firstname@lastname.fr
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