Vinegar: Safari extension that replaces YouTube embeds with HTML5 video tags

Post by mcpherrinm » Mon, Nov 29, 2021, 4:52 AM UTC

2muchcoffeeman wrote: post #41

lelandfe wrote: post #33

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If you feel ad-supported content is flat out unethical, how would you prefer to pay for media online?

I don’t necessarily think ad funded content is bad. But YouTube seems to do it the worst. 2 ads at the start, sometimes they can’t be skipped. Ads in between at weird places. Now there are 2 ads at the end too. Spotify is ok. Ads. Bunch of uninterrupted songs. Ads. Like radio. Many Anime streaming services are similar. Ads bookend the content. YouTube could have spent time curating good content and building a platfor…

Post by [deleted] » Mon, Nov 29, 2021, 5:08 AM UTC

rezonant wrote: post #13

Lovely... > The removal of in-video ads. You can pay YouTube for ad-free viewing... not doing so and stripping out the ads is dangerously close to "I just want this for free, so I'll steal it" > Prevent YouTube from tracking your play/pause/seek activities. A little bit of a tinfoil hat issue here, but it's fair if this sort of analytics bother you (it doesn't bother me). > Restore picture-in-picture functionality. P…

Post by kortilla » Mon, Nov 29, 2021, 5:16 AM UTC

rezonant wrote: post #20

wand3r wrote: post #18

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>> The removal of in-video ads. > You can pay YouTube for ad-free viewing... not doing so and stripping out the ads is dangerously close to "I just want this for free, so I'll steal it" I don’t understand this sentiment AT ALL. Google has built an entire business out of scraping and selling other peoples content. YouTube has become the defacto host of virtually ALL VIDEO. So yeah, I would watch a video without ads. T…

Completely your choice to bypass it, I just don't agree it's ethical when there is a choice to pay a bit of money instead to not have the ads. I will agree that this does not stop them from gathering your data and that is fair. But just stripping the ads without paying when they give you that choice doesn't seem like an ethical choice.

Post by rezonant » Mon, Nov 29, 2021, 5:54 AM UTC

kortilla wrote: post #55

Maxence wrote: post #51

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Some people work their ass to make a living and even if ads are annoying, for a lot it is what's keep them moving forward. Maybe Google makes money by selling other people content but they provide all the infrastructure to allow content creators to have their business first. Bypassing the ads is hurting mainly content creators, not Google...

> Bypassing the ads is hurting mainly content creators, not Google... No, it hurts Google too. Google isn’t some benevolent actor operating youtube at a loss. It’s a cash cow now.

Post by jchw » Mon, Nov 29, 2021, 6:15 AM UTC

dmart wrote: post #12

Installed this and it's great. That said, it's embarrassing how many iOS extensions I have installed just to work around today's shitty websites. AdGuard to make the web usable, AMPlosion to avoid AMP nonsense, Open in Apollo to avoid mobile Reddit dark pattens, now this (which I installed because YouTube's new embed widget starts playing on touch-start instead of touch-release, so it triggers while scrolling...)