Reading about this home-assistant thing -- why do you need an OS dedicated to the "home automation" use case? Isn't home automation simply an application level use case? Hard for me to see why we'd want a new OS/kernel for this.
Smoking a turkey with Prometheus, Home Assistant, and Grafana
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Re: Smoking a turkey with Prometheus, Home Assistant, and Grafana
#52Reading about this home-assistant thing -- why do you need an OS dedicated to the "home automation" use case? Isn't home automation simply an application level use case? Hard for me to see why we'd want a new OS/kernel for this.
You don't need it, but it has a lot of little things that you wouldn't implement but since you have them you use.
Re: Smoking a turkey with Prometheus, Home Assistant, and Grafana
#53Reading about this home-assistant thing -- why do you need an OS dedicated to the "home automation" use case? Isn't home automation simply an application level use case? Hard for me to see why we'd want a new OS/kernel for this.
I don't want to explain to my SO why the lights aren't turning on because I'm messing with a "apt upgrade" gone wrong.
Re: Smoking a turkey with Prometheus, Home Assistant, and Grafana
#54At first I thought it was a parody about overdesign and CV-driven development. This kind of feedback loop can be done in hardware without even an IC. Or an 8266 microcontroller (2 euros on aliexpress) if you really need WiFi.
You can make a turkey edible by just salting the whole thing. Or you could bury it under a pile of hot rocks (2 euros on aliexpress) if you really need to get heat involved.
Re: Smoking a turkey with Prometheus, Home Assistant, and Grafana
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, precisely, to me there's no ethical difference between a turkey and a dog (and a cow), that was my point.
Dogs are a common pet and turkeys are not. Sure, objectively they are animals with edible meat. One is raised with the intention of being eaten and one is not. In the hypothetical far away country (from a few parent comments up), if it was common to eat dogs instead of turkey and dogs were not raised, and treated as "man's best friend" then it would make a lot more sense for them to be consumed.
Re: Smoking a turkey with Prometheus, Home Assistant, and Grafana
#56Reading about this home-assistant thing -- why do you need an OS dedicated to the "home automation" use case? Isn't home automation simply an application level use case? Hard for me to see why we'd want a new OS/kernel for this.
Re: Smoking a turkey with Prometheus, Home Assistant, and Grafana
#57Do we really need to genocide turkeys every year to celebrate a pockmarked holiday? I'd say a thankful person would be eating something a bit more sustainable than a turkey that's been growth-pumped like a lab animal to epic proportions. Where's the thanks in needless slaughter of sentient beings? Are we so daft that we express our thanks for our fortunate circumstances by causing suffering of others?
>genocide
>Turkey
Ask me how I know you're not Armenian.
Re: Smoking a turkey with Prometheus, Home Assistant, and Grafana
#58Do we really need to genocide turkeys every year to celebrate a pockmarked holiday? I'd say a thankful person would be eating something a bit more sustainable than a turkey that's been growth-pumped like a lab animal to epic proportions. Where's the thanks in needless slaughter of sentient beings? Are we so daft that we express our thanks for our fortunate circumstances by causing suffering of others?
Do we really need to apply the term genocide to groups that aren't even human? Or is that an emotional appeal? Have you ever met a turkey in real life? Not the wild ones, the domestic breeds. They are so stupid that they will drown in their own water feeder if you don't keep an eye on them.
No.
Re: Smoking a turkey with Prometheus, Home Assistant, and Grafana
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
Let's suppose that in a country far, far away, there is a holiday called Givingthanks where instead of turkeys, dogs are eaten. Your alter ego in that country could then write the exact same comment than you did, replacing 'turkey' with 'dog'. We would read things like: 'It could be argued that our abstinence of industrial dog consumption is the ethical way to justify the one I eat on Givingthanks' or 'Givingthanks d…
The argument was directly related to the original claim of "genocide" and had nothing to do with the consumption of animals in general. I was saying that by consuming one turkey per year I am hardly contributing to the extinction of an animal. Dogs are consumed in other countries such as Nigeria and the practice is only taboo in primarily western cultures. This has historical and cultural implications. Like I said, j…
My argument is that it is against the spirit of thankfulness to buy factory-farmed Turkey for Thanksgiving. You clearly do not do that, you buy humanely raised turkey and do not represent the demographic HN or this country (unfortunately.)
Re: Smoking a turkey with Prometheus, Home Assistant, and Grafana
#60Very nice, though with a 200lb ceramic bbq like the BGE — and with the caveat that your lid gasket isn’t shot — you can leave it ticking over at 300F for hours, unattended. Big poultry in particular is dead simple because the giant breasts mean they cook as slowly as the legs, unlike a chicken where the breast will overcook by the time the thighs are done. Take it off when it’s at 140F and let it sit for an hour. My…