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Is Microsoft Stealing People’s Bookmarks?

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Re: Is Microsoft Stealing People’s Bookmarks?

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There's another common thing in all of those: Computers. For many people, "Just stop using Microsoft" is about as useful as "Just stop using computers"

> For many people, "Just stop using Microsoft" is about as useful as "Just stop using computers" For many people, it isn't. All of those people should "just stop using Microsoft." That not only helps them, it's an act of solidarity with the people who are still stuck. Because then alternatives have more market share and vendors have to support platforms that aren't Microsoft, which helps the stuck people extricate th…

I've used Open Office, Go Office, and LibreOffice exclusively since 2005. It used to be a real hassle, but today it is far less so.

MS Office's Excel is better than LibreOffice Calc, and Powerpoint is far, far better than LibreOffice Present. But LibreOffice Writer is much easier to use than MS Office Word. That's not just my opinion - everyone who tries it and does not need some esoteric Word-only functionality agrees. Except for one thing: collaboration. MS Word is, from what I'm told, still better for collaboration.

Re: Is Microsoft Stealing People’s Bookmarks?

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Microsoft makes this extremely difficult, even for an offline account. If you log into any Microsoft product (Office, Teams, Skype OneDrive, etc), Windows forces you to log into everything else. This is especially infuriating with Office, as they make it extremely difficult to get a standalone product, they very aggressively push Office 364, so you are forced to log into Office to even use it.

> Office 364 I think you're using an old version ;)

No, he just had downtime on a day other than February 29th!

Re: Is Microsoft Stealing People’s Bookmarks?

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Seems a bit late to make hoopla about a much more minor infraction. With Onedrive I'm facing the nightmare that you are not allowed to configure it until syncing is in progress. If you pause syncing immediately on install, you're not allowed to change settings to prevent said syncing from happening. I have a mix of personal and business data on there. This has been the case for a few years now but recently got worse.…

This isn't really a product issue. Separate your data properly, uninstall or disable the OneDrive client and use the web version if you need something, use a different product.... Not everything has to bend to your "unique" needs.

And it's hard to take your complaint or needs seriously when it starts out with mixing personal and business data.

Re: Is Microsoft Stealing People’s Bookmarks?

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Of course they don't steal anything from you. They just preserve your precious little soul. To your best interest. Which may coincidentially be in their best interest. A friendly customer service, because you happen to honour them using their products. And, if you're lucky, even in the best interest of people that do protect you against evil forces out there in the dark. From time to time they may look into your prec…

Developers! Developers! Developers!

Re: Is Microsoft Stealing People’s Bookmarks?

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post #53

Anyone know if this sort of thing happens with enterprise users of Microsoft? Exfiltrating user data would create a shitstorm at one of my previous employers.

If Microsoft said it didn't happen, why would anyone believe them?

Considering fraud is a crime, yes.

Re: Is Microsoft Stealing People’s Bookmarks?

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post #46

I believe they scrape all links pasted in Skype conversations too

if they do scrape all the links in skype conversations, i have an idea that would keep them very busy, such as a bot that has extensive skype discussions about links

You would be neither the first nor the last with an idea how to DOS Microsoft. Being the receiving end of ideas like that is bread and butter for any of the tech megacorps.

Re: Is Microsoft Stealing People’s Bookmarks?

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One of the comments on that link has offered this URL where Force Sync is mentioned.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/deployedge/microsoft-edge-p...

To me it's absolutely mind boggling the amount of text in that link.

There are nearly 100.000 words, which is the same as:

A 100,000 word count will create about 200 pages single-spaced or 400 pages double-spaced when using normal margins (1″) and 12 pt. Arial or Times New Roman font.

Reference https://capitalizemytitle.com/page-count/100000-words/

Re: Is Microsoft Stealing People’s Bookmarks?

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Of course they don't steal anything from you. They just preserve your precious little soul. To your best interest. Which may coincidentially be in their best interest. A friendly customer service, because you happen to honour them using their products. And, if you're lucky, even in the best interest of people that do protect you against evil forces out there in the dark. From time to time they may look into your prec…

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